<p>I think Sandusky’s victims should have a voice on what they think should be done. Hopefully, they have more than just attorneys working for them as to some form retribution. </p>
<p>I personally do not think football, the statue, the names, should be ridded, but there should be a strong addition to these things, a big plaque by the statue, and explanatory sign in the athletic building of the shame that was brought as well as the glory.</p>
<p>cpt, that reminds me of the mother who punished her kids by making them wear pig noses on the front lawn with signs that said, “I was bad today.”</p>
<p>Triponey touched the two “third rails” at Penn State: football and drinking. To his credit, Spanier was trying to rein in binge drinking. (Triponey had worked on reducing drinking at her previous post at UConn.) </p>
<p>There was an episode of This American Life in 2009 on drinking at Penn State. [#1</a> Party School | This American Life](<a href=“http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/396/1-party-school]#1”>http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/396/1-party-school) They recently returned for a follow-up. [Back</a> to Penn State | This American Life](<a href=“http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/451/back-to-penn-state]Back”>http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/451/back-to-penn-state) Spanier and Triponey got considerable push back for their efforts.</p>
<p>It does seem like a lot of major news outlets are picking up the Triponey story. No one is mentioning the other side that greenbutton linked.</p>
<p><a href=“http://safeguardoldstate.org/the-vicky-triponey-timeline-of-terror/[/url]”>http://safeguardoldstate.org/the-vicky-triponey-timeline-of-terror/</a></p>
<p>Here’s another viewpoint of her time at UConn, much different than the timeline of terror suggests:</p>
<p><a href=“http://advance.uconn.edu/2003/030331/03033107.htm[/url]”>http://advance.uconn.edu/2003/030331/03033107.htm</a></p>
<p>That first link reads as an attempt by school supporters to smear her reputation because she was trying to do the right thing. I don’t buy it. Says more about Penn State, in a bad way, to me.</p>
<p>Ah, but the mother did not implant those pig noses on the children for life. I am saying that the statue, the library and anywhere Joe Paterno, in particular, is named as a great benefactor, the other side of the story be right out there too. I’ll bet the family would rather the statue and names be removed, than for that to be recorded in place for posterity. </p>
<p>Triponey did not have a job that made for her being popular. Unless you actually were evaluating her and comparing her to others with such positions, it’s impossible to say whether she was enjoying her job a little too much, as I have seen those in that position do at times. I’m sure that after losing her job at Penn State the way she did, she was treading far more carefully at UConn. That is a difficult job to hold, one you could not pay me to do, and I don’t think anyone in that position is going be make the “beloved” list.</p>
<p>CPT - She worked at UConn. *before *she went to Penn State, so no reason to be treading carefully at UConn. Her 30 year career was pretty much ruined after Penn State and she has only recently started working back in the same field.</p>
<p>I would not allow a child of mine to step foot on that campus. </p>
<p>“In the end, the board of trustees bombarded with hate mail and threatened with a defamation lawsuit by Mr. Paternos family gave the family virtually everything it wanted, with a package worth roughly $5.5 million. Documents show that the board even tossed in some extras that the family demanded, like the use of specialized hydrotherapy massage equipment for Mr. Paternos wife at the universitys Lasch Building, where Mr. Sandusky had molested a number of his victims.”</p>
<p>The stories that come of PSU get more and more disgusting every day!</p>
<p>"Paterno’s resignation was necessary but I don’t think the statue needs to go. That would be like demolishing the Jefferson memorial because Jefferson owned slaves.</p>
<p>Ridiculous comparison.</p>
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<p>I followed the link posted by goingmyway. The group behind it, Safeguard Old State, was founded by Thomas A. Shakely. Mr. Shakely, whose linkedin page ([Thomas</a> A. Shakely | LinkedIn](<a href=“http://■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/in/tomshakely]Thomas”>http://■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/in/tomshakely)) describes him as a “Non-Degree Alumnus, College of Liberal Arts,” was President and General Manager of the campus radio station in 2008-2009. Since one of the main grievances listed pertained to the station, I wonder whether we are getting a fair assessment of Triponey.</p>
<p>Lol… Non- degree alumnus=dropout?</p>
<p>On the victims having a say in what is done . . .
The difficulty in this idea (as well meaning as it is) is that they have already been blamed and scapegoated for bringing down the system. Part of why it was so hard to report was community pressure to uphold the status quo. Penn State and the alumni/booster community should just do what is right and remove the statue. No decision making responsibility should be placed on the victims or they will very likely be further villified for rocking the boat and upsetting the “healing” process.</p>
<p>Penn State should try and get that site taken down - it adds to the whole image of destroy anyone who tries to change the status quo and protect anyone at all costs (Sandusky) that keeps the status quo.</p>
<p>Just when you thought the school couldn’t look any worse.</p>
<p>Comparing paterno to Jefferson? See that’s the mindset of thenpaterno and penn State groupies</p>
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<p>I think you are right. It’s not a case of the board having no plan to deal with this crisis; in fact we are watching the plan unfold. They are clearly in hunker-down mode. The plan is to drag their feet on any changes and weather the storm. The controversy will eventually die down and they can keep football and maybe even the statue. Then it’s back to business as usual.</p>
<p>I think the main reason pretty much everyone associated with Penn State fights so fiercely to hang onto football is that they cannot imagine the the place without it. Everyone can recite a long list of admirable achievements and attributes of the school beyond football, but none of those comprise its institutional central core and identity the way football does. At some very deep and emotional level, if the place hasn’t got football, it’s not Penn State.</p>
<p>I have three words for the Board of Trustees - Professor Emeritus Sandusky. He’s still there - and if he was out of prison, he could march in full regalia at all academic events.</p>
<p>They have not stripped Sandusky of that title yet? Really? That is really frightening.</p>
<p>As far as I am aware, they have not, (I could be wrong - but I have done what checking I can.) Of course, they shouldn’t be rushed into anything by a media-fueled frenzy.</p>
<p>As far as I am aware, not a single tenured member of the Penn State faculty, or a single member of the faculty senate, has even suggested this should happen. And Spanier remains a Professor in the (a-hem) so-called College of Health and Human Development.</p>
<p>I knew about Spanier, I assumed that was a position until the rest of this played out. But Sandusky has been through the legal process and found guilty. I understand waiting until the verdict was in, but once in, it should have been the first thing that was eliminated.</p>
<p>People have been fired for much less. And they can’t get rid of these cancers? Wow.</p>