<p>The article actually does state that “the emeritus” was revoked. As far as his pension goes, doesn’t his wife have a right to it?</p>
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<p>If you read the article posted regarding Sandusky losing his perks and emeritus status, in the comments section a reader posts the following:
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<p>I’m not familiar with PA law regarding pensions and convicted felons, but if the above is true the same should apply to Sandusky.</p>
<p>“…Sandusky’s crimes and other crimes against children do not fall under Pennsylvania’s Act 140, a 1978 state statute that enables prosecutors to request the forfeiture of a criminal’s pension.”</p>
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<p>Obviously something that needs to change.</p>
<p>I think there is legislation being considered to add child abuse to the state statue for forfeiture of pension. I have no idea if it can be applied retroactively, but believe the proposal includes anyone convicted after the day before the jury came in on Sandusky.</p>
<p>"… but there’s pages and pages of posts here with personal attacks against Penn State."</p>
<p>What thread are you reading? Yes, we all hate Penn State and now we have the opportunity to vent about it! Get a grip. It’s been said many times, it’s not the institution, it’s those who ran the institution that we all have a bit of a problem with.</p>
<p>^^^^^Besides the fact, how does one make a “personal attack” against a university?</p>
<p>The term “hater” on this thread and elsewhere has become popular as a quick and easy way to dismiss anyone with whom you disagree. But the problems at Penn State are not going to be waved away so easily.</p>
<p>I didn’t before and don’t now hate Penn State. Nor do I think any of the other Penn State critics on this thread hate the school. No, the real root and focus of people’s scorn in this mess was summed up quite nicely in bclintonk’s post from a few pages back. Penn State boosters and apologists should read it over and over until they understand it:</p>
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<p>what I observed on this thread is many of us frustrated with some of the defense of Paterno at various points over time. And comments regarding PSU placing football and money over protecting innocent children.</p>
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<p>Well, by doing only a cursory investigation, I have found that the NCAA has sanctioned smaller programs. Even the death penalty has been levied at some small programs.</p>
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<p>I was out of the country when the whole SMU thing went down, but if memory serves, over 200 SMU faculty signed a public manifest of sorts decrying how out of control the football culture had gotten at SMU in opposition to the purported academic mission of the school. I remember being a little shocked that these teachers would go out on a limb like that. I wondered at the time if the professors would experience any negative consequences for doing so.</p>
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<p>Well, I just think the opposite. Are the fines large? Yes, sixty million dollars is a lot of money. But the school and its football program come out rather cheaply as they escape the penalty most expected and … found appropriate. Again, is paying this fine over the years any smaller than a life without football? </p>
<p>It is not hard to see that the NCAA did imposed a strong penalty but also sought to place PSU on a lifeboat. Yes, they no longer will cruise on a luxury liner anointed with sainthood, but the football program is allowed to breathe as it is being rebuilt. </p>
<p>People here seem so concerned about the town; yet, it is fair for the town to return some of the riches they accumulated in the past 14 years. People here also like to draw parallels with SMU. People who do know Dallas will easily remember that SMU played its days at the Texas Stadium in Irving in front of hige crowds. Those days never returned. The vendors and staff obviously lost income as SMU was banned from playing one season, and another season was cancelled. But one could also see that without the boosters (and their illegal actions) SMU would never have risen that high in the first place. </p>
<p>Like it or not, anyone who hoist himself to a high pedestal (as JoePa and his program sought to do for years) must realize that the fall will be more painful. PSU conspired to maintain its image and protect the flow of … cash into its coffers. Plenty of people derived benefits during the last years. It is only fitting that all who benefitted are now paying. And paying enough might not even be on the table … yet! </p>
<p>Only delusions of grandeur stand in the way of accepting that justice was “almost” done.</p>
<p>Asked by a WNEP reporter how he felt watching NCAA President Mark Emmert reveal the sanctions against the Penn State football program for its role in the Jerry Sandusky sex abuse scandal, Price delivered an answer that even made some of his fellow alumni cringe. </p>
<p>“I just can’t put my arms around it, it’s, to me, it was our 9/11 today. I just saw planes crashing into towers,” said Price, who told WNEP that he has gone to almost every home PSU football game, with his wife, since 1986.</p>
<p>he saw planes crashing into towers when he heard the NCAA sanctions…what did he see when he heard about the victims? when he read the Freeh report about the administration. </p>
<p>this after the Colorado shooting rampage. I just don’t get this. And of course I realize this is one alum, but seriously?</p>
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<p>Hyperbole much? :rolleyes:</p>
<p>If a friend or relative goes to jail, you feel sad, even if you think they deserve it.</p>
<p>How about this: I suggest that people who think PSU’s punishment should be greater shouldn’t be called “haters,” while those who think it should be less shouldn’t be accused of not caring about the child victims. I think that might be helpful in promoting civil discourse on the interesting and important issues in this case.</p>
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<p>Mini…What PSU did was horrid, but it’s still a real possibility that some eother school ha even larger skeletons in its closet. Srely you’re not suggesting that PSU’s offense are the worst possible. Ceertainly anohter school could be found to be guilty of similar or WORSE offenses…what then? What if THAT school doesn’t have the deep pockets or winning teams so the NCAA just gives a much lighter punishment due to the school’s capabilities to pay and/or doesn’t give athletic scholarships</p>
<p>Oh, no. I know from my professional work that for every child molester caught and convicted, there are a 100-110 more out there. (But it is, you have to admit, relatively rare for an educational institution to engage in a criminal conspiracy to facilitate child sex trafficking. If that’s where this thing goes…)</p>
<p>BUT I do think that when all is known (if** all is known, the penalty currently given to PSU will appear far too light. I don’t think we are even close to the biggest skeletons yet. </p>
<p>Personally, I think that the time to have football at PSU again would be the time when they could honestly say they were “no longer trying to regain old glory”. Whether that be two years, five years, or 14 years without football, I think that would be best. But that’s only one opinion.</p>
<p>Football at State College took place for, what, six weekends a year? They could learn to survive without being dependent on it. The fact that President of the University stated they should keep JoePa’s name to the library in order to continue to recognize his contributions on the academic life of the University (as opposed to the statue, which at least was about football) suggests to me that the sentence likely wasn’t nearly stiff enough. And compromises their academic integrity. And deliberately inflicts even more hurt on the victims and their families.</p>
<p>Penn State fine was equated to one years profits, that formula is transferable to any other program. Remember the alumni raised $208 MILLION post Sandusky. That is 34 times the fine. alumni can delegate what ever program they see need.</p>
<p>In reality, what is really worse than what Penn State leadership allowed?</p>
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<p>You keep harping on the size of the fine, although it is manageable penalty for PSU. The NCAA extracted a pound of flesh, but still left the school with the opportunity to … make money with its program. That should not be the case, and this program should have been beheaded for a long time. No partial income allowed, and a REAL cost to the university imposed. That is what punitive means. The current fine is similar to allow an embezzler to keep a portion of his illegal gains. </p>
<p>It could and should have been a lot worse. PSU should have been placed in a situation where it … would find the death penalty easier to take. This agreement with the NCAA was obviously crafted by PSU officials, and they knew the school will survive this easily. And they rather pay the money than having no football in Happy Valley for a couple of years. Again, showing how the priorities stack up at PSU.</p>
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<p>I’m trying to wrap my head around what you feel an athletic program/school administration could do that would be worse than aiding/abetting/looking the other way at decades of child rape.</p>