Penn State Sandusky scandal

<p>How would it be helpful to have an opinion on this event by every faculty member? What is to be gained by this?</p>

<p>What do you want?</p>

<p>Actually ohiomom just answered this. A new sound bite for the media…</p>

<p>unwarrented, my rump - this is the biggest travesty in the history of any major US college, and this clown O’Donnell is sick and tired of it? The person who is sick is Sandusky and the PSU administration, Joe Paterno, and his moronic family. Let’s see if I can spell it out for you, genius - PSU is harmed forever, and this thing is far, far from over…just wait until the civil lawsuits decimate more than the football team. Yes it sucks for those who had nothing to do with it - but that’s called life. You’re teaching at a school who’s officials lied, cheated, covered up, and actually helped a pedophile abuse his victims for the sake of fame and money. Sympathy went out the window long ago, and Penn State needs to suffer the consequences.</p>

<p>I agree Ohiomom—this one statement says it all. </p>

<p>“The damage he has done, in my humble opinion, is far worse than anything Graham Spanier ever came close to doing.”</p>

<p>if Penn State wants to be all about academics then they shouldn’t mind giving up football. Just my opinion.</p>

<p>Capt. Thank you for your posts. They are well thought out and touch upon a number of problems that need to be addressed. </p>

<p>And yes none of us know for sure how we would react in certain situations. We hope we would act in a certain way but one never really knows until tested.</p>

<p>I actually checked that this guy is really on the faculty. I couldn’t beleive it. IMHO, its not what Sandusky did that will torpedo the school’s rep. Yes, what Sandusky did was terrible, as was the people who covered up. But moving forward, I would have expected to hear an outpouring from the facutly.</p>

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<p>wow… some of you will never cease to amaze me.</p>

<p>And how about this statement:</p>

<p>"… it is possible that a number of people…screwed up in not following up as aggressively as maybe they should have…"</p>

<p>Now there’s your academic integrity!</p>

<p>Perhaps, Paterno and other coaches there did not ask for concessions in the athlete’s grades from the professors. That is not the issue at hand here. No one is saying that it was an issue.</p>

<p>What is glaringly on the table, if this professor would read the report, is that top university officials were making decisions heavily directed by Paterno and the athletic department, when clearly they should not have been taking those opinions into consideration when a child’s welfare was being threatened. That a coach or anyone could actually sway the president of the university’s decision so that he does not call the police and have McQ tell them what he saw, so that someone could find out if a child was harmed, makes no sense to me at all. </p>

<p>I think the statement that Penn State has put football ahead of everything else, is not 100% accurate. I am sure that there are some things that did trump football. But that that it looked like someone was doing dirties with kids was something that was permitted to go uninvestigated because the football program did not want it investigated. That alone signals a huge problem. Did this guy even read the Freeh report? </p>

<p>Even without meeting the people involved, I am absolutely positive that each one of them did some good things, right things, generous things in their lives. So have some of the most horrible criminals of all time. Jeffrey Daumer, I’m sure had, his good moments and deeds. That someone was kind, generous, good, fair at any given time is not at issue, but that a criminal act was done is the issue at hand. THat those in the university would not look into it, and report it as they are legally required to do so, because it could cause too much trouble to a department/prorgam (football) and person (Paterno) is really at issue here, not that Paterno, the coaches, the administration did not let athletics rule every single thing at the college.</p>

<p>Maybe all of these professors should keep quiet, if they are so stupid that they don’t see what the issues here are.</p>

<p>“wow… some of you will never cease to amaze me.”</p>

<p>I am truly amazed every day with what comes out of PSU, hops_scout.</p>

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<p>Not that it matters, but I would love to see that latest report … and how PSU leapfrogged Northwestern in the categories mentioned above since the report released in the Fall of 2011. Perhaps NU is considered to small to count!</p>

<p>We do get the point that PSU did and does graduate a high number of his student. But that does not contradict the existence of a football culture. Not to mention that there are countless ways to boost the graduating rates of college athletes.</p>

<p>Football is more important than little children because…</p>

<p>OhioMom - I said that the rude, critical comments were from here and other sites. But here are a few snippets from other threads on this forum. - </p>

<p>"The problem that entering students at Penn State will have is …it showing a serious lapse in judgement or character for deciding to go there, which may haunt you in the future. Employer: “oh, so you went to Penn State from 2012-2016? Thanks, we’ll give you a call.” </p>

<p>“With the Sandusky conviction and fall-out, anyone with another option would be crazy to go to Penn State.”</p>

<p>“If you want to pay money to be affiliated with this tragedy you must be crazy.” </p>

<p>“There are parents saying their child chose Penn State THIS YEAR over Ivy League schools and other top universities. That’s just moronic.”</p>

<p>“I think it would be not just a bad idea, but an asinine idea given the circumstances.” (to attend Penn State)</p>

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<p>OK hold on…</p>

<p>Read the entire string of opinions within the community.</p>

<p>Prior to the NCAA sanctions I felt badly for the kids, now, I think the NCAA made a huge error. They should have put a total ban.</p>

<p>This is one faculty members opinion. One person. How much weight are you going to give it? Do we plaster his opinion on the front page of the paper?</p>

<p>How about the other 3000 or so faculty? Equal time?</p>

<p>It just seems unproductive.</p>

<p>Sax, I would be more than willing to post what other faculty members have to say. I haven’t found any. I have checked the online Collegian (school daily), OnwardState (website run by/for students/alumns) and Pennlive (local online news).</p>

<p>Freeh pointed out all the institutional flaws Penn State needed to fix–not having a compliance officer, allowing the football program to opt out of sexual harassment training, not complying with the Clery Act–all things that proved the “lack of institutional control.” </p>

<p>This was not just about Sandusky; this was institutional failure.</p>

<p>That being said, it’s unfortunate that so far of the five peope most directly involved, only Sandusky has been punished (well Paterno’s statue has been taken down, which IS something). The university, the students, and football have been punished. But Curley, Shultz, and Spanier are still on the university payroll.</p>

<p>And yes to whoever said somebody should look into Corbett’s involvement, if any, in the cover-up. Doubt it’ll ever happen tho.</p>

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<p>In other words, it isn’t “football’s fault” for everything. The UNIVERSITY failed and continues to fail. Hopefully they get things figured out…</p>

<p>One student, very well written. </p>

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<p>The Minority Opinion, Sadly</p>

<p>"Of course these sanctions essentially have nothing to do with the current players, but of course it’s a logical and legitimate course of action that must be done. This is an unprecedented case that will forever change Penn State, hopefully now in a positive manner, but I’m feeling almost embarrassed for the rash opinions offered by some of my fellow alumni. Remember, it’s not a stadium or a coach that will make you have a positive affect on the world, it’s the lessons you learned in the classroom and from your fellow classmates that will</p>

<p>As a recent Penn State Graduate I can definitely say “I know how it is,” and right now, I’m feeling ashamed that so many former and current Penn State students really do not “know how it is.”</p>

<p>He then is blasted by alum/students in the comment section.</p>

<p>SMH</p>

<p>Interesting article about how one of the victims feels about all that is happening.</p>

<p>[Victim</a> 4 wishes he had been given input in the fate of the Paterno Statue and Penn State | Dr. Saturday - Yahoo! Sports](<a href=“Victim 4 wishes he had been given input in the fate of the Paterno Statue and Penn State”>Victim 4 wishes he had been given input in the fate of the Paterno Statue and Penn State)</p>

<p>"Andreozzi said despite the actions of Sandusky, a former Penn State defensive coordinator, his client didn’t want his beloved Penn State to face the backlash.</p>