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This is what I think. I find it inconceivable that they didn’t at least get rid of him at that point. If they had forcefully banned him from campus at that point, they’d look somewhat better at this point. I’d really like to know what was in their minds–but we’ll never really know.</p>
<p>This was posted on facebook here: <a href=“Redirecting...”>Redirecting...; and 75000 people have clicked the “like” button</p>
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<p>This is why there is still a problem. A big problem.</p>
<p>Not just one person’s view… 75000 “likes” in solidarity.</p>
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<p>Most likely from many people (like my younger son) who didn’t read it carefully enough before "liking’ It.</p>
<p>My comparisons aren’t ridiculous. Feeling sorry that adults are going to a college that now has a tarnished reputation is ridiculous. It’s a school. It’s a place to learn. </p>
<p>And what a harsh thing to say. At least they are alive? Dismissing the hardships theynwill have to go through.</p>
<p>Students at psu are actually a very privileged and lucky group of young adults. But hey let’s feel bad for them because their school has a deservedly imperfect reputation in the eyes of the rest of the country. always a mistake</p>
<p><, Feeling sorry that adults are going to a college that now has a tarnished reputation is ridiculous. It’s a school. It’s a place to learn. >></p>
<p>The school only has a tarnished reputation with small-minded, vindictive people who can’t separate the students/alumni from the actions of a small group of self-absorbed administrators.</p>
<p>Seahorses- yes, your comparisons are ridiculous. And what’s so bad about being passionate about your college? I can imagine what you think about people’s relationships with their fraternities or sororities!</p>
<p>By the way- didn’t you post under a different screen name a few years back? I recognize your style.</p>
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<p>I think the exact same thing. But there could be more than one.</p>
<p><< And what’s so bad about being passionate about your college? >></p>
<p>Or your country, or your hometown, or your home town team (football, baseball, basketball)?</p>
<p>I hope that the students won’t need to become the objects of pity or hate. Rather I feel sorry for any potential employer who won’t look at a resume from a Penn State alumni. I think there was someone who posted that… But I don’t think most employers will reject Penn State resumes. I feel sorry for anyone who is biased and determined to hold the entire Penn State community accountable for sins of a small group of men. </p>
<p>I hope these current students will someday have the same memories that I do…strolling past Old Main, attending classes and lectures, situdying on the Hub lawn, eating at The Diner and the Corner Room and walking around the pedestrian only campus.</p>
<p>Privileged? Sure in that they were accepted at a great school, but not necessarily financially. It’s an expensive public college and many students and parents take on substantial debt to attend.</p>
<p>It will be different next year that’s for sure — the words of the alma mater are difficult to read and the reminder of the children that were horribly molested will be thick in the air. I hope the students can create a momentum to raise money and awareness of child abuse. Thon is the worlds largest student run fund raiser and the students work incredibly hard to pull it together each year. It would be great to expand the mission of Thon beyond raising money for pediatric cancer.</p>
<p>Penn State proud at the moment? Not so much. Hopeful for the future of Penn State? I still am! Hope springs eternal.</p>
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<p>Only kinda true because what he admitted to was regretting not doing more while at the same time claimed he passed it along to the higher powers and let then handle it. What he did, in fact, was make a choice between innocent little boys and his precious football program.</p>
<p>MOWC I think sometimes people just have an agenda they want to push. The interesting thing is mot of the time you can put them on ignore and the thread doesn’t even feel like there is anything missing because the poster’s agenda is so outside the mainstream of the conversation and so narrow in focus :-)</p>
<p>Thanks to those of you who have supported my view, my posts and my son. To clarify, my concern isn’t so much that the students have to deal with a school with a “tarnished reputation” - it’s that the students are dealing with what feels like personal attacks against them. Those that understood my using the word “bullying” (yes, verbal - and also cyberbullying - look up the definitions) understand that this hasn’t been an easy time for Penn State students. I never did, and never will, compare what the students are going through to what happened to the victims. And those that went there…welll, are just looking to argue. Some people on here probably could use something more constructive to do with their lives.</p>
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In fairness, unless I’m mistaken, I believe there was one poster who ‘went there’. They have been called out previously by posters on this thread for comments that were thought to be harsh.</p>
<p>Hopefully when your son gets back on campus for the fall term he will be surrounded by friends, find comfort in getting back to a ‘normal routine’, slightly more insulated in his university community, feel strength in numbers, and find he is less sensitive when he does hear something negative (as hard as that is).</p>
<p><< Hopefully when your son gets back on campus for the fall term he will be surrounded by friends, find comfort in getting back to a ‘normal routine’, slightly more insulated in his university community, feel strength in numbers, and find he is less sensitive when he does hear something negative (as hard as that is). >></p>
<p>Thanks. I think that many students are looking forward to getting back. But please don’t make this a “my son is sensitive” thing. Words hurt - that’s all I’m saying.</p>
<p>Well if a Wounded Warrior is man enough to forgive a man who was man enough to shelter a man who was man enough to abuse boys; well damnit, then I am man enough to forgive Abraham Lincoln who was man enough to (pre grunge era) sport the beard no moustache look . (It’s been over 150 years; too soon? I sorta think so, in truth, he wasn’t really man enough to pull off the stove pipe hat, and I am no great fan of proclamations as they seem unmanly)</p>
<p>Oh and USA! USA! USA!, WE ARE PENN STATE, YADDA! YADDA! YADDA!, ETC.!, ETC.!, ETC.!</p>
<p>ljrfrm - I’m sorry if my word choice was poor…I did not intend to imply ‘overly sensitive’, simply that it is human nature when we are surrounded by a large group of people who support us (ie university community), it is easier to let some hurtful things roll off our backs. It doesn’t make it acceptable at all, just easier to dismiss.</p>
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<p>Still and all, you’ve got an 18 yo kid who was excited about going away to school, took pride in it, and now a real scandal has occurred that has shaken the school to its core and drew a lot of negative public attention. It’s possible to feel sorry for the innocent kids while still acknowledging a lot of very, very bad stuff went down there. It’s also possible to acknowledge that football can be a way of bonding a school togther while also desiring that PSU would turn down the football rah-rah a bit right now to help with where they should be moving their culture.</p>
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<p>Tell your son to keep in mind that those who make life hard for him and his classmates are a small minority. There was a small minority of students who protested when JoePa was removed as a coach, and some saw them as representing all of Penn State. Those who did are now lashing back at them, and it feels as though they are lashing out at your son. Tell him not to make the same mistake. </p>
<p>If he is frequenting discussion areas where it seems like the majority feel that way, he needs to find other sites, because the majority does sympathize with the students. Our comments may be colored by the fact that someone has to pay for what happened, and unfortunately there will be an unavoidable cost to the students.</p>
<p>As to anyone who has the power to directly “harm” the students through refusing to hire someone from Penn State, perhaps we all should think about whether we would want to work for such a person in the first place. Their refusing to look at a resume might be the greatest gift of all.</p>
<p>The students have to remember, this is not about them, and it never was. But it IS about that group of students that protested. It IS about an atmosphere perpetuated by the administration that allowed them the power to seemingly represent the student body at Penn State. It will now be up to the rest of the students to wrest that power from them, and let the world know that THEY are Penn State.</p>
<p>They are like the bulk of Muslim Americans who had to face hatred following 9/11, because of something done by a small group of men in their name. It has not been enough for Muslim Americans to say they condemn what happened, and it won’t be enough for the Penn State students either. But in the end, it will make them better people, worthy of everyone’s respect.</p>