<p>I’d never argue with the Athens Banner Herald OR the Connecticut Post on issues at State College PA. I always thought of 10% as a small sampliing.</p>
<p>PSU hasn’t learned anything since? Really? PSU are the ONLY ONES still talking about child molestation. Reread these posts. Nobody here gives a hoot about anything but punishment for all associated with Penn State. Sue Paterno? Really? PSU Freshmen?</p>
<p>I’m thrilled that todays game was played. Without todays game, nobody would have beening talking about child molestation.</p>
<p>So PSU was playing for pride and respect today? The only thing more laughable is that pride & respect for Pedophile State was gone when Paterno tried to bury the truth…and here’s the best part: they lost at Beaver stadium, the one thing Sandusky never went after in the showers.</p>
<p>Exactly. And the Blue Out game is scheduled for Sept 22.</p>
<p>"Fans are being encouraged to wear blue, while donations will be collected around Beaver Stadium for the Pennsylvania Coalition Against Rape. Students are organizing Blue Out activities.</p>
<p>I support the Penn State players and I always will. The PLAYERS have no control over what happened. The PLAYERS are the ones who practice and play their mind, bodies, and hearts out. I support the PLAYERS each and every time they play. </p>
<p>Most people can separate their support of what happened with support of the players. Some obviously can’t.</p>
<p>Without today’s game, nobody would talk about child molestation? How large is that Happy Valley navel? </p>
<p>Here’s what would have most definitely brought more attention to the issues and to PSU’s role in that sordid development. Vivid images of an empty stadium because of a death penalty would have been quite effective. Or even better, a mandatory assembly in the stadium where no game will be played but a service to the victims of PSU’s “heroes.”</p>
<p>Today’s game was nothing else than a reminder that neither the NCAA or PSU cared a bit.</p>
<p>As far as players, they are part of the “We are STILL Penn State”</p>
<p>Do you think I was expecting the PSU supporters to agree? That would require ignoring hundreds of pages of posts. I might as well seek the agreement of the brain-dead Franco Harris!</p>
<p>We will indeed never agree that the only just punishment would have included taking away the exact thing Paterno and PSU tried to hard to protect. Regardless of their innocence in the grand scheme of things, players, band members, and fans should have had no opportunity to be part of this game today. And dozens upon dozens more in the future.</p>
<p>Business as usual should have never been an option.</p>
<p>“Vivid images of an empty stadium because of a death penalty would have been quite effective”</p>
<p>Really? Where would we see these vivid images? Do you think the media would be covering the empty stadium? Newspaper, TV? Not a chance!</p>
<p>“Or even better, a mandatory assembly in the stadium where no game will be played but a service to the victims of PSU’s “heroes.””</p>
<p>Ok, who should be mandated to attend? The victims? What would be the point of a service without the victims? A service? What kind of service? Do you seriously think that that would get coverage by the media?</p>
<p>In other words, you aren’t promoting anything that would be of any benefit to the victims. What a surprise!</p>
<p>I come and go on this thread. Haven’t posted much lately as I’ve been a bit occupied with Hurricane Isaac. And while there are certainly many more important things in life than football - I can guarantee every bar/ restaurant in this area with power is full of people watching the LSU-North Texas State game (and enjoying some AC and cold beer). Sometimes something “frivilous” like football is a nice diversion for folks.</p>
<p>And romanigypsyeyes - thank you for your honestly and the unique viewpoint you have offered on this thread. It is much appreciated.</p>
<p>Oh, I believe that the stadium would have been empty and desolated, but that if history can be a guidelines, there would have been plenty of protesters in the street.</p>
<p>History? Are you referring to the protests over the current sanctions? Nope, that can’t be it, there weren’t any. Maybe you are referring to the “violent protests” after Joe Paterno was fired. Not exactly the same thing as an empty stadium. I wonder what would get more media coverage, a protest or a full schedule of football?</p>
<p>My guess is that there won’t be much media coverage for the next game. It would be NICE if there was media coverage for the Blue Out game - but I’m not holding my breath.</p>
<p>Actually - while I don’t like the slant the media takes - when I’m back overseas (next weekend), media coverage is the only way I’ll really find out anything. It’s hard enough finding NFL games - college games…forget it.</p>
<p>Okay . . . First of all, that is not true. Second of all, I have to tell you this kind of statement makes Penn State look bad. It makes supporters of the school look full of themselves and self-congratulatory. Incidentally, that is why “We are Penn State” is such a lousy motto at this point in time. It’s hard to interpret it as anything but a smug “we are better than YOU.” At best, it’s “we are better than you athletically”, but it has lashings of “we are better than you morally”, thanks to the history of the athletic program.</p>
<p>I agree the administration and BOT are a large part of the problem. They are supposed to be leaders; right now they are setting a poor example for the students, whining about every little thing. I am actually wondering, at this point, if they will in fact remain accredited. Normally I’d say “Of course they will”, because the governing body is not going to want to remove the accreditation and will give them the opportunity to shore up and fix their problems.</p>
<p>But the BOT seems so insular, out of touch, and arrogant that I’m wondering if they understand that they will need to make changes in order to survive. I mean, these are the guys who got the Freeah report and then spent two days talking about their budget instead of reading it. They seem to have no sense of responsibility or priorities.</p>
<p>Most of Penn State’s changes have been foisted on them from the outside–the NCAA changes, for example, and even taking down the statue–it happened because they wanted to “show the NCAA we’re serious” and thus avoid the death penalty. What has Penn State, the institution not the students, done on its own to fix anything? The only thing I can think of is hiring Freeah . . . but then they turned around and pouted about how “we accepted his report but we didn’t REALLY accept his report!”</p>
<p>Spanier is still there . . . Peachy Paterno ice cream is still served . . .</p>
<p>Did the players commit a crime? No
Did the cheerleaders commit a crime? No
Did the band commit a crime? No
Did the students commit a crime? No
Did the fans commit a crime? No
I am so happy Penn State played today! :)</p>