Penn State Sandusky scandal

<p>I agree. The sentence is not near long enough. I was expecting a lot more.</p>

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<p>This is so typical!</p>

<p>Yes, the entire world is misunderstanding the real issues. Poor, PSU is only a victim. </p>

<p>Does it really help to balance moronic statements hurled from both sides? Or does it help to mix the issues of the crime of sexual abuse committed by a PSU insider and the lack of institutional controls, extended cover-up, or simple lack of morals of the people in charge of the football program? </p>

<p>Reduced to its essence, Sandusky got (finally) caught and appears to have received a sentence that accounts to a life sentence. PSU, in turn, got the benefit of negotiated deal that, while appearing to be tough, was really a bit more than a slap of the wrist. Rather than being decapitated and suffering from a long term death penalty, there has been NO LOSS in football activities, and everything is just about buried as the pageantry and arrogance is back on full display --thanks to the unjustified decision by ESPN to braodcats the games on national television. </p>

<p>No reasonable person expected the university to be torn, but many expected a bit more than (temporary) remove (and store) the most visible image of a football program that had successfuly hidden its rotten shortcomings for decades and surely a bit more than allowing the football program to survive as it currently does. </p>

<p>Sandusky got his just desserts; PSU, through the forces of the good ol’ boys network, and the power of the mighty dollar, escaped its just punishment. And find a twisted moral compass to continue to play the victim card.</p>

<p>CosmicFish >>I agree. I don’t know what the judge was thinking. He should have gotten the maximum whether he would be alive that long or not. Hopefully, he won’t be able to seek parole ever. It’s obvious from his taped comments from yesterday that he has no remorse and still doesn’t think he did anything wrong. I truly believe child molesters shouldn’t ever be released from prison. There are too many times that a child is molested or abducted and when the abductor is arrested we find out that this isn’t the first time. </p>

<p>I hope this provides some sense of closure for the victims.</p>

<p>PSU students, faculty, and alumni will be reminded of the complicity of the university every single day they walk past or into the JoePa library. Those of us on the outside never see it, and never give it another thought (outside of internet forums). </p>

<p>Who is punishing the school?</p>

<p>(I would like to believe that the shorter sentence indicates that the feds are going to come down on him and the rest of the accessories under the Mann Act, and that prosecutors are going to take aim at the Gov. But I doubt it. So it will be left to the civil suits to do that, and if I’m the University and the JoePa family, I settle as quickly and quietly as possible.)</p>

<p>Jerry Sandusky will not get off easy once in prison. Inmates do not like child abusers. A “rich” white man abusing children, some of them black, will really have difficulty. </p>

<p>He will endure 30 years of abuse himself. Maybe more.</p>

<p>xiggi, I never said PSU was the victim. I said there were serious issues that needed to be addressed. It was a scandal. It was a tragedy. But this whole “pagaentry and arrogance on full display” crap just makes me roll my eyes. </p>

<p>It’s the same “pageantry and arrogance” at every big-time football school. It’s just college kids having fun at football games. Rooting for their team and their school. No more, no less. They aren’t rooting for child molesters or somehow supporting what happened. The team itself had nothing to do with it and the people involved are gone. This is more of the “sackclothes and ashes” expectation - god forbid today’s students have fun and enjoy a college football game, the marching band, the tailgates, etc., as other students do across this country. When PSU does it, it’s “arrogance”.</p>

<p>"PSU students, faculty, and alumni will be reminded of the complicity of the university every single day they walk past or into the JoePa library. Those of us on the outside never see it, and never give it another thought (outside of internet forums). "</p>

<p>PSU students, faculty, and alumni are aware every single day of our past, present and future opportunities. I, like many PSU alumni, have decided to make a difference in the life of an abused child. I am a CASA volunteer. While some of you “never give it another thought” there are many who will never forget. I’m proud of my many fellow alumni who have also chosen to take action.</p>

<p>And I bless you for your efforts! thank you!</p>

<p>I have to wonder why a man who was so obviously guilty of crimes still maintains his innocence. I sense he actually believes he is innocent.</p>

<p>^he is a sociopath, a liar and master manipulator, CRIMINAL, predatory rapist. He knows exactly what he did. He is hoping to play the same game he’s always played, the persona of loving children, wanting to help those poor underprivileged children. but all you have to do is listen to his statement, he maligns the victim who first came forward, and claims these kids had problems when he met them. EXACTLY his master plan. Select kids who are so vulnerable they will be afraid to talk, and who might not be believed if they do ultimately talk, because YOU KNOW, they have problems.</p>

<p>Thank God we had a jury who trusted and believed these young men’s experiences. He is hoping for a new trial. He believes he can manipulate everyone, in part, because he DID for so many years. And because his attorney likely reinforced that message. This is why I was sickened that anyone, but especially PSU radio even gave him a forum to express his vile lies.</p>

<p>I do not hold the radio station’s actions against them - even as a criminal he is certainly entitled to speak, and if they think will people listen and care (one way or the other) about what he says they are certainly free to broadcast it as news.</p>

<p>While I think he probably is aware, I had read somewhere that some molesters genuinely think themselves innocent - they are not capable of considering what they were doing as “abuse”, considering it more like an extra-special hug that they knew other people would misunderstand. I don’t like to call these people insane, as that seems in some way or to some extent to absolve them of guilt and responsibility, but I cannot imagine someone capable of doing that as being wholy sane.</p>

<p>not sure if you were responding to my calling S a sociopath, but that is not the same as calling him insane, and most definitely would be holding him completely accountable.</p>

<p>He is sane. He was sane enough to get away with his actions for decades. He was sane enough to select the “right kind” of victims. He was sNe enough run a charity in order to have access to boys and to give himself good cover. Sane enough to coach, run camps, stay married, get what he wanted re access to psu, the football program and it’s staff.</p>

<p>People who are “sane” enough to do what they want to can still be delusional and not see the harm their actions cause, see molesting as “loving.”</p>

<p>He wasn’t delusional. He is a warped being, bur he isn’t delusional. Would you call a gang banger who shoots into a crowd delusional? Or someone who steals from a pension fund? Or a mugger? While he may and people like nambla say or it’s because we love them, that’s an excuse to be pedhiles and justify their actions.</p>

<p>If a dad who molests his daughter delusional? A teacher who has sex with a student?</p>

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Actually, I was responding to razorsharp’s statement that he (Sandusky) might believe he is innocent.</p>

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I would say no, but I am not a psychologist. As I mentioned, I thought I had read that some molesters could believe that they were not hurting the kids. I would not consider myself competent to comment on Sandusky specifically, and (as I mentioned) would not forgive his actions regardless.</p>

<p><< I, like many PSU alumni, have decided to make a difference in the life of an abused child. I am a CASA volunteer. While some of you “never give it another thought” there are many who will never forget. I’m proud of my many fellow alumni who have also chosen to take action. >></p>

<p>collegekidsmom - Thank you for making a difference. I am constantly amazed and proud of the efforts made by PSU students and alums to help abuse victims and efforts to educate and bring awareness to the public.</p>

<p>This is an account of the proceedings inside the courtroom today from a member of Tree Climbers, a group of abuse survivors. [Daily</a> Kos: Tree Climbers: Bearing Witness - The Jerry Sandusky Sentencing](<a href=“http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/09/1142297/-Tree-Climbers-Bearing-Witness-The-Jerry-Sandusky-Sentencing]Daily”>Tree Climbers: Bearing Witness - The Jerry Sandusky Sentencing)</p>

<p>Seems like the one good thing that has come out of the case is national attention to child sexual abuse.</p>

<p>I don’t think Sandusky believes he is innocent, how could he?
I would believe that he didnt think he would ever be punished.</p>

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<p>Nobody expects sackclothes and ashes. Nor do they expect students to show contrition for crimes they did not commit. </p>

<p>However, they should have been deprived of the exact thing their “leaders” tried to hard to protect, and that thing is none other than King Football. </p>

<p>An empty stadium should have been the perfect reminder of what wrong. At it stands, it has been forgotten. So forgotten that students do not even think it is necessary to carry their moronic JoePa signs to the game. Oh wait, forgive me to call that arrogance without “xx” marks. </p>

<p>It is business as usual! King Football rules again. I wonder how long before they start polishing that statue and restart a campaign to undo the lost victories.</p>