<p>sax-thanks for posting on Corbett–I am outraged at the behavior of the Republicans walking out to prevent an investigation into Corbett’s role in the Sandusky investigation, sickening. wow, just wow. on what grounds do they believe it is not appropriate to look into the campaign contributions from Second Mile, etc.</p>
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<p>Thanks for my morning chuckle!!! :)</p>
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<p>We all know that universities look at more that SAT scores; however, a university concerned with public relations might give more weight to high SAT scores that year. Anyway, a quick search revealed that the poster herself has rightly had a more nuanced view of SAT scores in the past. </p>
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<p>coase…really? This is the best you’ve got? Out of context one liners from thousands of posts. hahahah. I stand by them all in context . </p>
<p>Speculation on this and other threads was that PSU would be unable to enroll an academic class of better students than they have in the past due to the scandal. </p>
<p>Most said wait for the scores to come out. Well they have and now …for you…thats not good enough…</p>
<p>SAT scores are accepted as a standard of students across all schools.</p>
<p>Higher scoring students chose to enroll at PSU this year. </p>
<p>Deal with it.</p>
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Y’know, I was just responding to being told that I deliberately misinterpreted greenbutton’s post. In my world, that’s combative. Besides being false. Anyway, it just seems like it’s gotten to the point here that anyone that disagrees with a PSUer gets jumped on, practically gleefully.</p>
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<p>And what about the non-PSUers who “gleefully” attack PSUers? Do they get off scott-free in your book?</p>
<p>No, of course not. I’m just saying it seems to be very one-sided of late. Maybe I’m not reading enough here, I’m speaking to what I see in the past month or so. </p>
<p>This forum seems to be bringing out the worst in everyone. And no, I’m not excluding the non-PSUers, or even myself.</p>
<p>Sorry -but I think the attacks, accusations, insults, and name-calling that have come from the non-PSUers has been far worse.</p>
<p>It probably just feels that way. :)</p>
<p>Take a look at some of the excerpts Pilot2012 posted on the previous page. About “ideally, bankrupting the university”, etc. I remember one comment, many hundreds of pages ago, where someone said if it were up to him, he would tear down the university and salt the earth where it stood. There were people saying that Penn State students should transfer, or would have a hard time getting a job. There were people definitely gleeful as they described the assumed decline of academic reputation because of the scandal. Or those who characterized PSU as simply a party school with low academic standards, which proves they know nothing about the place. Or those who got upset if students root for their football team or still love their school, and then assume these students therefore do not care about child abuse. There are many comments where PSU is characterized as having some uniquely evil “culture” that allowed or even encouraged this scandal to happen.</p>
<p>The people who know Penn State know that it is a typical flagship state university. Big campus, big-time football, lots of school spirit. It’s comforting to cast it in some evil light because then you think it won’t happen elsewhere. Well, we all know it happens all over the place. And PSU-ers are sick of the pitchfork-and-torch mentality that some here have displayed. It seems to me the “glee” is on other side - people delighted when a football player transfers, etc. We refuse to be ashamed of caring about our university. We can hate what happened, absolutely. Procedures need to be changed so that it never happens again. That does not mean we have to don sackclothes and ashes and apologize 5 times a day as we bow in the direction of State College, in order to prove we’re against child abuse. (and yes, that last sentence was snark, for the sarcasm-impaired)</p>
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<p>Ditto what SansSerif wrote.</p>
<p>I agree those were all venomous statements, most likely fueled by the outrage of the scandal and reluctance of PSU to shut down what is perceived as the scandal’s root cause – idolization of PSU football. I understand that must be hurtful to those who love PSU, resulting in feelings of being personally attacked. And that’s probably how things degenerated here, with each side feeling so personally attacked, and then attacking back.</p>
<p>And that is my psycho-babble for the day.</p>
<p>Rosie, I get that you’re not attacking and you’re trying to talk about this civilly. But something you said " the scandal’s root cause - idolization of PSU football" is the problem here. There have been so many places where child molestation was ignored or covered up. They weren’t all instances where there was an idolization of someone, something, etc. </p>
<p>Child molesters get away with it for a variety of reasons. Sometimes it’s greed, or a desire not to rock the boat. Sometimes people are naive. Some don’t want to believe something that horrible of someone they think they know and respect. Some are fooled by the molester’s seemingly plausable explanations. Some just don’t care enough to get involved. There are so many reasons. I’ll repeat what I said in my other post - PSU is no different than other big flagship schools with big-time football programs. If you went to a random football game that Joe Paterno coached, and then another college game at Alabama, Nebraska, Michigan, etc, you’d see different mascots and team colors, but otherwise a whole lot of similarities in terms of how big of a deal the games are, how the students have fun with tailgating, the school spirit, etc. It could have happened anywhere. It DOES happen pretty much happen anywhere. That isn’t comforting to acknowledge, but it’s true.</p>
<p>I agree with you. I did say “perceived” as the root cause. People generally go by their perceptions, and don’t give it much more thought unless they have reason to.</p>
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<p>[Sandusky</a> Sentenced to 30 to 60 Years in Prison - Bloomberg](<a href=“http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-09/sandusky-sentenced-to-30-to-60-years-in-prison.html]Sandusky”>Bloomberg - Are you a robot?)</p>
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<p>Good.</p>
<p>While Sandusky’s sentencing doesn’t help the victims directly, hopefully they’ll indirectly get a sense of justice from it. If nothing else, maybe jailhouse justice (in regards to child molesters) will prevail and Sandusky’s “dance card” will always be full.</p>
<p>30-60 years doesn’t seem anywhere near long enough compared to what he could have been sentenced to. I wonder what the judge’s thinking was.</p>
<p>Dottie is getting back the bail money:</p>
<p>[Jerry</a> Sandusky Asks Pennsylvania Court To Return Wife’s Bail Cash](<a href=“HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost”>HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost)</p>
<p>Does this sentence mean he has to serve at least 30 years or could he be paroled earlier?</p>
<p>I think he must serve 30 years before he could be considered for parole, personally I wish the judge had thrown the book at him - all 400+ years would have been a much stronger statement. Although perhaps this is meant to be a final punishment - making him beg for parole when he is 98 (assuming of course, that he gets there!).</p>
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I don’t think there is any other option! Bail money is money secured to ensure you attend the trial, if you DO so I don’t think there are many circumstances where they can keep it. And since most felonies lack the provision for massive financial penalties, the state cannot really go after his money, although the victims can and will in civil court.</p>