<p>If I recall correctly, mini was complaining about Sandusky’s pension…</p>
<p>[Jerry</a> Sandusky’s $4,900 monthly pension is revoked by state retirement system | Latest news | CentreDaily.com](<a href=“http://www.centredaily.com/2012/10/10/3365633/jerry-sanduskys-4900-monthly-pension.html]Jerry”>http://www.centredaily.com/2012/10/10/3365633/jerry-sanduskys-4900-monthly-pension.html)</p>
<p>[Letters</a> by Sandusky, wife blame everyone else - CNN.com](<a href=“http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/10/justice/pennsylvania-sandusky-letters/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1]Letters”>http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/10/justice/pennsylvania-sandusky-letters/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1)</p>
<p>And Jerry Sandusky and Dottie write letters to the judge . . . blaming everyone else. "“Nobody mentioned the impact of abandonment, neglect, abuse, insecurity and conflicting messages that the biological parents might have had in this,” says Jerry.</p>
<p>Never before have I wished so much for a way to punch someone through the internet.</p>
<p>If Dottie has contact with children through the charity Second Mile, is she a mandated reporter?
Can she be prosecuted in any way if it can be shown that she was aiding & abetting this criminal behavior?</p>
<p>It looks like they revoked his pension on the (to me, flimsy) grounds that he was a “de facto” state employee even after he retired. Hey, does that mean the victims can sue the state?</p>
<p>Don’t be too shocked if his pension is restored.</p>
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I believe (in PA at least) that only professionals are mandated reporters, and only for children seen by them in a professional capacity. I believe Dottie was only ever a supporter and volunteer, never an employee, so she would not have been a mandated reporter. And along the same lines, the two people (his father and Dranov) whom McQueary immediately told about whatever he had witnessed did not see the abused child in their professional capacities and therefore were not required to report the abuse either.</p>
<p>In Sandusky’s letter, he says Penn State lied because they were protecting their public image. I don’t get that at all. How on earth could he think this has benefitted PSU in any way? If it had been found to be all a big lie, wouldn’t that have put Penn State in a much better position? Why would they conspire to have him falsely convicted when it has been so devastating to the whole university? Geez, Jerry, if you’re going to lie like that, do a better job of it …</p>
<p>Even if Dottie were a mandatory reporter, she couldn’t be compelled to testify against him. She may have known what he was doing, but approved, and knowing others would not approve, made sure not to witness anything she would have to report.</p>
<p>Judging my the letters, they seem to think of themselves as a team, and maybe they both thought he was giving the boys what they needed - what they saw as a form of love and affection. This narcissist sees himself as a savior, rescuing these boys from their awful lives. But if he truly believes he did nothing wrong, he still belongs locked up for the rest of his life - just in a psychiatric ward.</p>
<p>“If I recall correctly, mini was complaining about Sandusky’s pension…”</p>
<p>Oh, he’s made plenty: paid by the state to carry on his nefarious activities, with his strange Emeritus title (and an extra $160k) on the recommendation of JoePa. Now they’ll use that money for his imprisonment - three hots and a cot. </p>
<p>Sandusky committed heinous acts - and he is being punished for those acts, whether or not he was able to form “criminal intent”. There are others, however,…</p>
<p>Enjoy the library. It lends luster to the academic side of the university.</p>
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Oh really? That’s what the state was paying him for? So presumably, every criminal’s actions are the responsibility of whomever pays him/her, regardless of their knowledge? The “state” did not pay him to “carry on his nefarious activities”, they paid him a pension for coaching football. His extracurricular activities were not part of his employment contract. Or do you think that every person from the PSU HR department to the Governor knew about his activities and considered them his job, because that is what your statement implies.</p>
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Accepted, by the way, by former PSU President Spanier and made to happen by current PSU Erickson!</p>
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You would prefer the death penalty? As a matter of fact, so would I and many others, but that isn’t going to happen, nor (according to one ADA I know) should it.</p>
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Everyone has been punished (or is in the process of being punished) to the very limits of those with the power to do so:</p>
<p>Sandusky is in jail for the rest of his life.</p>
<p>Curley and Schultz are under indictment, and regardless of the outcome will never work for PSU again.</p>
<p>Spanier and Paterno were fired - the extent of punishment Penn State was able to levy. Neither one has apparently (despite your numerous, repeated, enthusiastic, and thoroughly unsupported allegations) committed any crimes for which there is evidence for prosecution, so at the moment it appears that criminal charges for Spanier are simply not possible.</p>
<p>Penn State has been unilaterally punished by NCAA President Emmert, completely ignoring the normal sanctioning process and the body set up for exactly such a purpose. That is to say, PSU cannot attempt redoing the sanctions via the accepted route, per the consent decree, and the NCAA never will because it would be an admission of error on their part, and the NCAA does NOT make mistakes.</p>
<p>The students, alumni, faculty, and staff have been shamed in public and in private.</p>
<p>The football team has been hit with the aforementioned sanctions, and is possibly being subjected to additional unacknowledged punishments as well:</p>
<p>[Penn</a> State Football: NCAA Penalizing Nittany Lions LB Michael Mauti For Penn State Off The Field Issues?|The Pigskin Report](<a href=“Welcome thepigskinreport.com - BlueHost.com”>http://www.thepigskinreport.com/2012/10/penn-state-football-ncaa-penalizing-nittany-lions-lb-michael-mauti-for-penn-state-off-the-field-issues/)</p>
<p>Who else do you think CAN be punished more? And why don’t you think it has happened?</p>
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Always did.</p>
<p>“Enjoy the library. It lends luster to the academic side of the university”</p>
<p>Thanks Mini! Penn State has a wonderful network of libraries. The main campus has two huge and amazing libraries in addition to the many smaller ones. The library system does indeed lend luster to the wonderful academics.</p>
<p>Pilot2012, Thanks for the kind words. I’d like to challenge Mini and the many other non-PSU related posters, who have such a hugh interest in Penn State, to join us in taking action against child abuse. Please, Mini and others, give us the opportunity to applaud your efforts.</p>
<p>^^I don’t understand why PSU supporters take criticism of the offenders personally. It’s as if they are enmeshed in an unhealthy way. It’s the reason they are so resistant to sanctions, etc.</p>
<p>Btw, I worked for 4 years in a residential treatment facility for adolescents, placed by the court, who had been sexually or physically abused or neglected and could not live in their own homes. That is the reason I have such strong opinions about Sandusky, Paterno, Spanier, Curley and Schultz.</p>
<p>I encourage others, as well, to work or volunteer to help prevent child abuse!</p>
<p>I applaud you OhioMom and share your strong opinions of those men. Also, I’m not a McQuery fan.</p>
<p>I don’t think anyone takes criticism of the offendors personally. I think people take things personally when it’s inferred that there is some special horrible culture pervading the campus that made a coverup possible, or even encouraged it. I think people take things personally when it’s inferred that students cheering a football team – like many other college students are doing across the country – are somehow okay with child molestation. I think people take it personally when questioning anything in the Freeh report means you’re a blind JoePa fan with no reasoning abilities. I think people take it personally when people who know nothing about Penn State or its football program somehow appoint themselves as authorities who declare the place is simply a party school. I know I take it personally that for a while, my daughter, 15, couldn’t wear her PSU shirt because some ***hole would shout “Sandusky” or “PedophileU!” </p>
<p>After a while, you get touchy. </p>
<p>And one of things alumni have always taken pride in is that the football program was different. Recruits didn’t get Jaguars. They had to go to class and do the work. They’ve had the highest graduation rate for football teams for many years. None of that is untrue because of what happened. The student athletes who chose Penn State because of it, and got an education as well as a football scholarship, still have much reason to be proud of their accomplishments.</p>
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<p>While I am not certain what such a call-out would accomplish, I will answer for Mini, because I doubt that he will answer directly to the question raised here. I believe that people who have read the vast contributions of Mini on this forum have learned that he (and his partner) are engaged in activities that help the “poor, disengaged, or abused” both on a volunteer and professional basis. </p>
<p>While there are plenty of reasons one might not agree with everything that Mini has posted here (I might be his biggest “challenger” here) there is no denying that his knowledge of such issues is based on life experiences. And, above all, there are countless reasons to applaud his mega efforts to make our world a much better place. Here in a far flung countries.</p>
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<p>Is that the case? </p>
<p>Or is there a different reality that does not fit the narrative of the victimization of PSU? A reality that involves Emmert doing his darnest to SAVE the football for the death penalty that was broadly expected from the NCAA, and shall I say entirely warranted. Indeed, the choices presented to PSU were nothing short of a lengthy sentence or the immediate guillotine, but the resulting slap on the wrist was really the best PSU could have hoped for. And why this was a negotiated deal.</p>
<p>PSU’s football program got lucky. Very lucky. Take a look at SMU’s life after the death penalty for a comparison. And then tune in for the next televised game of … PSU on ESPN. </p>
<p>Unilateral sanctions? Yeah right!</p>
<p>“While I am not certain what such a call-out would accomplish”
<p>“there are countless reasons to applaud his mega efforts to make our world a much better place”
reread his/her posts</p>
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Yes! Emmert levied his punishment outside the NCAA sanctions committee and without (apparently) their participation. The agreement was pushed in large part by threats of a death penalty that had not been discussed by said committee. The consent decree explicitly says “no appeals!”, and the NCAA has not given any indication whatsoever that they would reconsider on their own accord.</p>
<p>So yes, I think that was all true.</p>
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I don’t know who was “broadly expecting” it, the death penalty had been discussed but was not actually taken before the sanctions committee. </p>
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Exactly correct, but Emmert did not have the authority to enact either without Erickson rolling over and playing dead, so these were not necessarily false choices.</p>
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Negotiated in secret, by people with their own agendas, without review, and without the possibility of reconsideration? Who does that deal really serve?</p>
<p>Regardless of what you personally feel was warranted, I would ALWAYS prefer an open trial before a committee over a backroom deal as created. Perhaps we would have gotten the death penalty, but if it came with due process and consideration, with the arguments out in the open and an honest discussion between both sides, I could have accepted that. But this was not justice, it was an attempt to avoid justice while making sure the top people kept their jobs and maintained appearances.</p>
<p>Wait a second… that sounds familiar.</p>
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<p>I have read his and her posts for years. I know what his family has done and is doing. </p>
<p>Have you read his and her posts outside this thread?</p>
<p>This is from an interview with Ed Ray, chairman of the NCAA’s executive committee–</p>
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<p>[Oregon</a> State Beavers: A Q&A with Dr. Ed Ray, OSU president, on the NCAA’s ruling on Penn State | OregonLive.com](<a href=“http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2012/07/oregon_state_beavers_a_qa_with.html]Oregon”>Oregon State Beavers: A Q&A with Dr. Ed Ray, OSU president, on the NCAA's ruling on Penn State - oregonlive.com)</p>