Penn State Sandusky scandal

<p>Good to hear.</p>

<p>I also just heard on PBS News Hour that more charges have been brought against the other two.</p>

<p>good good good.</p>

<p>they all belong in jail.</p>

<p>Too bad the ringleader is dead. (though the civil suits will be fun!)</p>

<p>The ringleader was Jerry Sandusky and he is very much alive and in jail.</p>

<p>The former Professor Emeritus had absolutely nothing to do with the coverup (unless you believe he was blackmailing JoePa.)</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/spanier-schultz-curley_presentment-11-1-12.pdf[/url]”>http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/spanier-schultz-curley_presentment-11-1-12.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>"Spanier, Schultz and Curley are accused of concealing information about suspected child abuse involving Jerry Sandusky, including on-campus incidents from 1998 and 2001 that were reported and discussed in great detail by those three men. The three are also accused of obstructing the criminal investigation into the case, makingConspiracy of Silence false statements before a grand jury, endangering the welfare of children and other related crimes.</p>

<p>“This is not a mistake, an oversight or a misjudgment. This was a conspiracy of silence by top officials at Penn State, working to actively conceal the truth, with total disregard to the suffering of children,” Kelly said.</p>

<p>“Spanier’s lawyers asserted his innocence and described the new charges as an attempt by Gov. Tom Corbett to divert attention from the three-year Sandusky investigation that began under his watch as attorney general.”</p>

<p>Ringleader of entire scandal, in the sense that an individual’s behavior was the pivot point of all other behavior: Sandusky. If he had moved to Elsewhereland in 1999, Penn State would not be where it is today. Agreed? Okay.</p>

<p>Ringleader of PSU behaviors in reaction to Sandusky’s : The jury is literally still out on that one. Was it a group effort? A singular misuse of power? Speculate all you want (oh wait! we do that already!).</p>

<p>Play nice everyone. As Governor Christie says so nicely : “That’s what adults do”. And mini, I’m so glad to see you getting Sandusky’s whole title in your post again. Might be time, though, to refer to him as Inmate Sandusky, it’s all about the details.</p>

<p>We lack details, but we don’t have to speculate as much anymore. There are 59 pages worth reading. Was it a group effort? See above. “A conspiracy”.</p>

<p>Enjoy the library.</p>

<p>Myturnnow,
I’m so glad that you brought up that HS principal. Honestly, that one still burns me. And the guidance counselor. Here was a child who had the courage to come forward with his mom, only to have the school administration make a mockery of his story and defend a pedophile. Not only that, but a coach at the school spread the news of his accusations to the other students and ostracized and shamed him. These people need to be held accountable. Not only did they violate their oath as mandated reporters but they violated all that is decent as well.</p>

<p>^yes, she was the key person who “abandoned” this young man when he summoned the courage to report the abuse. I can’t imagine Linda Kelly is leaving her off the hook, since she did NOT report the abuse. Although since she rapidly reported after Aaron and his mother did I wonder if that absolves her. I sure hope not.</p>

<p>^I can’t believe she is still Principal of that high school. I agree EPTR.</p>

<p>" I can’t imagine Linda Kelly is leaving her off the hook, since she did NOT report the abuse."</p>

<p>Different grand jury. Different case. (Just as the Paterno/Sandusky Mann Act felonies would be in a different jurisdiction. Similarly with the civil suits.)</p>

<p>“I have touched base with the coach. Keep us posted.” (E-mail of Curley to Schultz, May 5, 1998).</p>

<p>I just don’t see one line in an email being enough to convict any one of any thing.
“I have touched base with the coach.” is not exactly a smoking gun. And the 1998 actions were investigated.</p>

<p>I have read and reread the email from the report about talking to Joe…when I read it, it seems like they wanted to talk to Sandusky as well as the authorities. How that morphed into not talking to the authorities I don’t know…but that email sure does nothing to make it clear how it happened.</p>

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It is to mini. Apparently he has insight and evidence that no one else (not even Freeh) has, that proves to him beyond the shadow of a doubt that Paterno was the mastermind and that the whole thing was a conspiracy on the order of black robes, midnight meetings, and satanic chanting.</p>

<p>“How that morphed into not talking to the authorities I don’t know…but that email sure does nothing to make it clear how it happened.”</p>

<p>@ Mom2M - Curley’s email: “After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday, I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps.”</p>

<p>It is actually spelled out pretty clearly. I’m sure they never imagined the emails would be uncovered, especially when Spanier talks about being “vulnerable” for not reporting.</p>

<p>"“After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday, I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps.”</p>

<p>Let’s remember what he talked over with JoePa. The guy had a track record.</p>

<p>Does anyone truly believe that anything related to Sandusky would not have been discussed at length with PSU’s Napoleon? Or anything that could remotely impact his football empire.</p>

<p>Deride Mini all you want, but Paterno remains the central figure of this massive and lengthy cover-up. This was all about protecting the football program and the related cash windfall and angelic reputation. </p>

<p>His death spared him from the ultimate judgment. Although his tarnished reputation and shameful legacy provides a bit of balm to the victims of his selfishness.</p>

<p>And it was more than a coverup. The Mann Act violations are affirmative criminal acts. He authorized the payments (if he didn’t sign the checks). We know with certainty of at least one set (in 1998, through Victim #4). But there were likely a dozen.</p>

<p>About 5,000 posts ago i said that they will need more than the one line e-mail that is quoted a couple times in that past couple posts…since they are now prosecuting they must have found enough to make a connection that might stand a legal test…in and of itself “I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps” could have many meanings. There was enough in the Freeoh report to get the ball rolling so this outcome of actual prosecution is a step in the correct direction. Hopefully the prosecutors did some more work after the report.</p>