<p>Like collegekid’smom, I am confused on what goingmyway means in post 9056.</p>
<p>“EVERYONE there said it’s a shame that so many Penn State officials knew what was going on and let it continue. I said, well, no one has been convicted of that, and I was practically laughed off the table.”</p>
<p>To me, “EVERYONE” means all at the table(incl. GoingMW) agree there were many officials involved in actions and/or coverup, but GoingMW was laughed at for saying no one had been convicted. My interpretation is that obviously Sandusky(as Emeritus) could be considered a PSU official, and certainly he let it continue, and obviously did not try to stop it. So was the group laughing at GoingMW being unaware of Sandusky’s conviction? Or were they laughing because they believed additional convictions are a foregone conclusion and soon to become reality? Or, does being a “PSU’er” mean no one at PSU is aware of the Sandusky conviction? Sandusky was not convicted for a one-time incident. After the first time, he let it continue.</p>
<p>Corbett knows that the people of PA hold him responsible for not charging Sandusky earlier, and has no chance for reelection…unless of course, he can get the NCAA to back down, then he is golden and will get reelected.</p>
<p>This is interesting 3togo. If I understand it correctly, the issue is where the money is spent, more than anything else. It will be interesting to see the outcome.</p>
<p>I think Mom2M is right. I believe Corbett and the state of PA want 100% of the $60 million penalty to go to organizations within the state of Pennsylvania, but the NCAA is saying only 25% will go to the state. I just read the 25% number was stipulated in the agreement so if this is the basis for lawsuit, I’m not sure Corbett will get what he wants, whether it is fair or not.</p>
<p>As a PA resident who would have to pay nearly $30,000 a year to send a child to my flagship state university, here’s what I’ve got to say to Corbett:</p>
<p>Penn State gets 7% of its budget from the state, due to your budget cuts. So you can damn well get 7% of the sanction money. You’re lucky they designated 25%.</p>
<p>Press conference has started: Corbett is asking for the sanctions to be thrown out in entirety and the consent decree declared illegal. “As Governor I cannot stand by and let this happen without a fight”. Good heavens. </p>
<p>As Attorney General, he was happy to let Sandusky go uncharged. I can’t even imagine this is a desperate bid to stay electable — Corbett was already highly unpopular due to policies unrelated to the PSU debacle. He was never going to get re-elected anyway, so why throw this out? How does the state even have standing with the court? PSU has already specified that no tax dollars or tuition money will be used to pay the $60 mil fine. And what possible good can come from another year rehashing the sanctions? Does Corbett seriously believe PSU should have NOTHING happen to it? I want the drugs he is taking…</p>
<p>I think the Governor is right. Why should so many innocent people be punished for the criminal acts of a few? If PSU has to pay money all of it should benefit people in Penn. The victims were in Penn. Money taken from PSU should be used to benefit the people of Penn. not people in other states.</p>
<p>Considering that the alternative was a potential death penalty (no football at all for a few years) they should be grateful for what happened in terms of penalties handed down by the NCAA. If the Governor pursues this, he shouldn’t be shocked when the coach Bill O’Brien leaves for the NFL. O’Brien is already being talked about as a potential coaching hire this year despite the $( million buyout but if he thinks that there is potential for him not to have a team to coach next year, …sayonara…and the only person to blame will be him.
The Governor is on the Board of Trustees. Why are we only hearing about his objections now, not at the time it happened???</p>
<p>You are comparing apples and oranges. The victims will sue PSU and receive compensation for their damages. The NCAA suffered no damages. It’s purpose is to regulate athletics not to sanction university for criminal behavior by former coaches.</p>
<p>Because this is often the nature of punishments, and theoretically, peer pressure should help police a person’s behavior.
If a jewel thief gets put in the pokey, his wife, children may suffer loss of income, in addition to the disgrace. the local grocer may sell fewer groceries, the landlord may get stiffed, etc.
If Toyota(for example) pays a fine for defective brakes, maybe execs that had nothing to do with design get smaller bonus. Maybe plant workers get smaller profit sharing, and then places they would spend their money get less income.</p>
<p>Oh, and one last reason- because the guy that had authority to negotiate the punishment for PSU accepted <em>any sanctions</em> deemed appropriate in exchange for avoiding the (football) death penalty.</p>
<p>State AG contends that NCAA is a trade organization bound by its own rules, which it did not follow in levying sanctions and as such, those sanctions are invalid. Says it has been investigating legal choices since the summer. (When the Gov said that taking the sanctions was an appropriate part of responsibility) Interestingly enough, the State AG office will change hands in two weeks. PSU has said it will have no comment as it is not a legal participant in the suit. </p>
<p>Innocent people are always caught in the misdeeds and punishments. Whether the money stays in the state or not is of little consequence and certainly not a requirement of justice.</p>
<p>So basically, the governor and a few here are arguing that the NCAA rules and its governing power should be toothless and unenforceable. Since all punishment to any sports program, whether it be recruiting violations or in this case violation of the moral clause of the rules, is a punishment of the institution as a whole and almost always a result of a misdeed of a few individuals within the program.</p>
<p>Basically, you want all the benefits and money that come with the program but none of the responsibility when the rules of the engagement in such activities are violated.</p>
<p>This is a moot point, but I think if the accused (Curley, et al) had just admitted to the coverup and took their punishment, none of this would be happening. The NCAA would not have had to show its muscle, and no one would have expected PS football to be sanctioned. </p>
<p>It’s the constant denials of those involved that is causing all this grief. JMO</p>