<p>'What I’m trying to say is that once CPS is involved, and once there is an investigation"
Where does it say that CPS was involved. In my state, CPS is not obligated to investigate every report.</p>
<p>jym – I also wonder why the janitors or their supervisor didn’t report the 2000 shower incident to CPS or the PSU campus police.</p>
<p>That’s right, CPS does not need to report back to the complainant</p>
<p>However, there were other conversations that must have happened, either harsh and accusatory or slippery and covert:</p>
<p>between Paterno and Curley
between Schulz and Curley
between Spanier and Sandusky
between Paterno and Sandusky</p>
<p>etc.
etc.</p>
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This is correct. Sad, but corect. I have had to make a report to our DCFS on a few occasions. When I call, I get a voice recorder where I am told to leave a message and I would receive a return call. I leave a message and then sometimes do, sometimes don’t get a message on our answering machine after hours. So I call again. And again. Can only remember one time that I actually was able to talk directly to someone and discuss the report. In one case the mother of the girl who was allegedly physically abused (not sexually) also called to report, and both of us left contact numbers as to how to reach both of us. It fell into a black hole. She and I made other arrangements as to how to protect her child and how to work to get the stepdad in a “mens stoppig violence” group and other therapeutic resources. But DFCS was useless.</p>
<p>Woody, In 2009, there had already been other accusations, including the 1998 investigation that went nowhere. Nonetheless, 1998 would have raised red flags.</p>
<p>Tom,</p>
<p>Where is any of the reports, does it state that Curly or Shultz told Paterno that it had been reported to CPS? </p>
<p>The thing that makes people upset at this is that Joe Paterno had styled himself as someone who went the extra mile to do the right thing “Success with Honor” was the motto. One of his quotes that is really ironic is “You have to perform at a consistently higher level than others. That’s the mark of a true professional.” Doing the bear minimum after a child is raped is not the mark of a true professional. After reading quotes like that from Paterno and the seeing his actions in this disgusting mess I am left with an image of a hypocrite</p>
<p>I clearly answered that - it does not say it. It says Schultz told the GJ he believed it was reported. I am just stating something that may have happened as an example of why we should not rush to judgment until all the information is out.
How does this rush to judgment help the victims? Are victims better off when anyone guilty or not is tarred and feathered. I do not understand how that helps. I think it would make matters worse.</p>
<p>"Doing the bear m"inimum after a child is raped is not the mark of a true professional.</p>
<p>Oh, he did more than the bare minimum, all right. He continue to serve on Sandusky’s honorary board of directors. He opened the doors for Sandusky to use the Penn State facilities and the locker room. Presumably he attended Second Mile functions, and helped them raise funds. (We’ll know soon enough.) At the very least, he lent Sandusky his name for the next nine years (or 12 after Sandusky’s “resignation”).</p>
<p>That’s the mark of a true professional. (I am hoping that he was only a hypocrite.)</p>
<p>mini- those are all valid questions that should be asked along with all the other members that served on the board. I wonder if McQuery worked with the Second Mile. I had heard that all the coaches were involved.</p>
<p>Only wish this weren’t tongue in cheek. (Andy Borowitz)</p>
<p>STATE COLLEGE, PA (The Borowitz Report) – Responding to Wednesday night’s rioting in support of ousted football coach Joe Paterno, the board of trustees of Penn State University today took the extraordinary step of replacing the entire student body with an interim student body.</p>
<p>“After careful consideration, we decided we had to make a change,” said trustee Harley Manvers. “Hopefully, these interim students won’t be such jackasses.”</p>
<p>Mr. Manvers said that finding 40,000-plus new students in time to attend Saturday’s game against Nebraska was a “daunting task.”</p>
<p>“We needed to find a large number of people with absolutely nothing going on in their lives,” he said. “Fortunately, we found them on Twitter.”</p>
<p>Tracy Klugian, an ousted Penn State junior who rioted in support of Mr. Paterno Wednesday night, expressed sadness at the scandal enveloping his former alma mater.</p>
<p>“What happened years ago was a terrible tragedy,” he said. “But it didn’t have to wreck an 8-1 season.”</p>
<p>"I wonder if McQuery worked with the Second Mile. I had heard that all the coaches were involved. "</p>
<p>"Then 28, McQueary was “distraught” after witnessing the alleged 2002 assault, according to the indictment. Yet it appears he may have continued to participate in fund-raising events with Sandusky — including one held less than a month later.</p>
<p>Sandusky was a coach at a March 28, 2002, flag-football fund-raiser for the Easter Seals of Central Pennsylvania, and McQueary and other Penn State staff members participated by either playing or signing autographs, according to a “Letter of special thanks” published in the Centre Daily Times.</p>
<p>The paper also reported that McQueary was scheduled to play in the Second Mile Celebrity Golf Classic in 2002 and 2003. The Second Mile is the charity Sandusky founded to provide education and life skills to almost 100,000 at-risk kids each year.</p>
<p>And in 2004, the Centre Daily Times reported that McQueary played in the third annual Subway Easter Bowl Game, an Easter Seals fund-raiser that was jointly coached by Sandusky."</p>
<p>Quanto? Il prezzo?</p>
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<p>Odd that there is no comment and no outrage here about this. </p>
<p>He would seem to me to be a culpable individual. He DEFINITELY knew about the 1998 charges. He was DEFINITELY in a position to at the very least warn the board of Second Mile about potential exposure to liability through continued association with Sandusky. One wonders whether he would actually have been ethically required to warn them, in terms of professional standards.</p>
<p>mini- that confuses me about McQuery. I have real questions about him and I think he will not be a great witness against Curly and Schultz.</p>
<p>Oh this is twisted and complicated.
Raykowitz (director of Second Mile) and his wife should also resign.</p>
<p>Mr. Raykowitz is one of two employees at the Second Mile earning more than $100,000—the other being his wife, Katherine Genovese, who is executive vice president. Nice gig.
Mr. Raykovitz, a clinical psychologist, and his wife earned a combined $230,000 from the organization last year. Second Mile had revenue in 2010 of $2.2 million, according to filings. But this will rapidly go down.</p>
<p>and then:</p>
<p>Wendell Courtney, an attorney for Penn State whom the attorney general’s office maintains was an attorney for Second Mile in 1998, was made aware of the investigation. At that time, Mr. Courtney’s wife, Linette, was on the Second Mile board. Mrs. Courtney declined to comment.</p>
<p>And no conflict of interest here?</p>
<p>Different topic but I have seen many charities that are actually scams to reward the charity founder and their friends economically.</p>
<p>"mini- that confuses me about McQuery. I have real questions about him and I think he will not be a great witness against Curly and Schultz.’</p>
<p>Again, to get a little “novelistic” - it all fits together if they are all on the take. At first, reluctantly, then…</p>
<p>As I noted, “Quanto? Il prezzo?”</p>
<p>Every man has his price. The only other interpretation I can come up with is one I offered first: Paterno is not evil (which I think is the more likely interpretation) - just dumb as a brick. And McQuery is a close second. The only intelligent man in this entire conversation is Sandusky and he has, shall we say, other negative attributes…</p>
<p>If I were the D.A., I’d be examining JoePa’s bank records. And McQuery’s.</p>
<p>Hey I am all for a full and complete investigation and a thorough airing of all the facts.</p>
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mini This does not surprise me as long as McQueary was an employee of PSU athletics he will be expected/ordered to participate.</p>
<p>I think Paterno is and has been living in a small isolated cocoon in which he really knows much less than everyone gives him credit. Your 'dumb as a brick" scenerio…</p>
<p>There is a certain point where people stop telling the ol man things they don’t think he needs to know. They don’t want his input so they keep him isolated from many of the things happening around him.</p>
<pre><code>I think a good example of this is when the GJ report broke last week. Paterno had no idea of the ground swell of hate and disgust that was aimed at him. He didn’t believe he had done anything wrong. His attorney son, acting foolishly as his advisor because he was trying to protect his father as sons will do, fashioned statements that quickly led to more vitriol.Paterno was ready to answer everyones questions before the BOT stopped the press conference. When his son convinced his dad that people wanted him outand he needed to retire it was again a step too late. By that time the whole family was in their own cocoon.
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<p>Finally they hired an attorney who thankfully told them all to stop making statements.</p>