Penn State Sandusky scandal

<p>chocoholic, I do not understand why, in your view, Raykowitz and Genovese should resign.</p>

<p>The other guy clearly has major ethical issues.</p>

<p>Again, I don’t think McQuery should be viewed in the same light as the administration. He was a grad student. Secondly, He fulfilled the requirements of the Whistle-blower law in Pennsylvania. He did what the law requires him to do! Yes, he didn’t stop the attack on the boy. Yes, he didn’t follow up. Yes, he didn’t go to the police. However, the Whistle-blower law doesn’t require any of this. He was only required to notify his superiors,which he did. As a result, Penn State can’t fire him as a result of this incident. They probably will work out a settlement for him to resign.</p>

<p>Either way, I really do feel sorry for him because he did what we was supposed to do. He showed more courage than any of the administrators. To pillory him over this is just wrong in my opinion.</p>

<p>First, you have Wendell Courtney, attorney for both Penn State AND Second Mile. Do we really believe that he was not aware of all the accusations and investigations?</p>

<p>Then, if Raykowitz was told in 2002, as stated in the GJ report, about McQueary’s report of the child sexual abuse, then he is complicit in keeping Sandusky on as a consultant and paying him $57,000 per year right until 2008 when Sandusky directly informed Raykovitz about the sexual abuse investigation,</p>

<p>Lots of dirty hands in the cookie jar.</p>

<p>Yuck.</p>

<p>taxguy- people here are not arguing legal requirements they are discussing moral standards.</p>

<p>Clearly the Legal System and the Child Protection System have failed in this situation up to this point, despite NUMEROUS OPPORTUNITIES.</p>

<p>I am outraged at that as much as anything.</p>

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<p>So lets just say this 10 year old boy is your son. How would you feel if an adult could have stopped the man raping him and did nothing? Do you think he did enough? No! This is not an adult hurting another adult and the criminal could kill you if you try to stop them. This is a child getting raped. McQueary could have stopped the crime. As a woman, there is no way I would just walk away and not stop the crime. Honestly it would have taken other people keeping me from killing Sandusky. Believe me there would not have been any other victims. We should not have to have laws that say you need to stop a crime. Why didn’t he call the police. Even if he didn’t feel he could safely stop the crime, why not call the police? I am pretty sure a phone was not far away. Why didn’t he make sure the kid got medical care? I don’t know how anyone can not feel that he didn’t do enough.</p>

<p>“I think Paterno is and has been living in a small isolated cocoon in which he really knows much less than everyone gives him credit. Your 'dumb as a brick” scenerio…"</p>

<p>Dumb as a brick makes it very easy to blackmail him. Once he sequestered Sandusky once…</p>

<p>This is what I imagine McQueary’s father saying on the phone, “Son, calm down, you have to think this through. You are on your way to becoming coach–you cannot mess this up. This is a huge program. Big money. Penn State is big. Sandusky is big. Don’t make waves. Just tell JoePa who is also GodPa. Joe will handle it” blah blah blah</p>

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<p>It’s not about hindsight. He could have called the police a week later, a year later, any day up until last Saturday. And EVERY DAY for NINE LONG YEARS he decided to do NOTHING. Screwing up once is a mistake, albeit a very bad one in this case. Nine years is moral bankruptcy.</p>

<p>“chocoholic, I do not understand why, in your view, Raykowitz and Genovese should resign.”</p>

<p>Curley testified that he told Raykowitz as well as Spanier what McQuery conveyed to him. Second Mile knew. Page 8 of Grand Jury report.</p>

<p>Boy, did the account get watered down by Curley and Schulz to the point of almost accidental touching while “wrestling”. Incredible. They knew what they were doing. This is so messy.</p>

<p>LasMa, come on. Don’t go there.</p>

<p>Yes, now I understand chocoholic’s thinking. I read the GJ report back when the thread started, and had forgotten that point. If indeed Curley conveyed what McQuery conveyed to him to Raykowitz, and if McQuery conveyed what he claims he did, I would think that Raykowitz would in fact have been mandated to report as an employee of an organization with kids in its care, and possibly in his professional capacity also. </p>

<p>Of course, given the apparent lack of action by CPS and the DA’s office going back in time, it is perfectly possible that he DID report. </p>

<p>I would say that if he did report, he should have, in addition, confronted Sandusky and told him that he would no longer be allowed to have contact with any children in the foundation’s care, and that it would be ideal if he severed his relationship immediately or at least took a leave of absence while the charge was investigated. Or even–and this is not desirable–confine himself to fundraising until the charges were resolved.</p>

<p>chocoholic, I think you should refrain from putting words into people’s mouths when you have NO IDEA what they might have said. You are now impugning the honor of yet another person whose only verifiable action was to tell his son to report the matter to his superior, DESPITE the long term relationship between Sandusky and his family.</p>

<p>enough with the personal attacks</p>

<p>^^ Unfortunately it seems to have been a horrific game of telephone, and intentionally so. Anal intercouse in the shower became playful “wrestling” and “horseplay” as the info passed from one person to the next.</p>

<p><a href=“PSU, Nebraska Players Pray for Victims, Healing – NBC10 Philadelphia”>PSU, Nebraska Players Pray for Victims, Healing – NBC10 Philadelphia;

<p>Not sure what to think.</p>

<p>edited to add - there is a video on this page of the two teams meeting in the middle of the field and kneeling in prayer - can’t seem to link to the video directly</p>

<p>Consolation, To whom are you addressing your question?</p>

<p>Sorry, OhioMom, it was a mistaken post. Too much happening too fast.</p>

<p>@Cartera, What do you mean? I am touched. It’s a difficult moment when many would be inclined to cover their bottoms and easily forget the victims. I am sure they were hurt through allegations, unwanted unflattering attentions. But they are praying for the victims. That’s what matters most, helping victims recover. It may provide the first step to heal.</p>

<p>Iglooo - I didn’t mean anything negative -just full of mixed emotions since there is anger, sadness, and a host of other emotions around this.</p>

<p>has any adult that had any knowledge of the assaults behaved honorably this far?</p>

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<p>Certainly. At the very least, the HS superintendent, principal, and coach, at least some of the mothers, McQueary’s father, and quite likely other people that we don’t know about.</p>

<p>Ohiomom, regarding what the GA saw and what he reported, I don’t want to get unduly graphic, but it is in fact possible that what he heard and saw was not in fact anal penetration. I certainly hope so, because I would think that actual penetration of a 10 yr old by an adult male would result in significant physical injury in addition to the emotional injury. And if you think about it, close questioning of the GA could result in his saying he wasn’t 100% sure that penetration occurred, which could result in people who don’t want to believe it saying it wasn’t REALLY sex, etc, etc. Of course we know that even if it was a more masturbatory activity, it was still vile and was still molestation. But one can imagine how the self-serving game of telephone, as you aptly put it, could proceed. And if Sandusky did violently anally rape a 10-yr-old, it is hard for me to figure how the evidence could escape the notice of his mother, if she did the laundry…</p>