Penn State Sandusky scandal

<p>Minor point- but the report was made by she school for victim # 1 in 2009 (hence a 7 not 9 yr gap) yet it took another 2 years before the indictment was handed down. So even during the investigation was Sandusky still given access to the facilities?</p>

<p>Also, The first investigation in 1998 unfortunately went nowhere, and no charges were filed. If McQueary asked any of his superiors for an update or asked why he hadn’t been interviewed or why Sandusky was still around, and they told him that it was being handled higher up administratively, what is he supposed to do? We simply do not know what he did, how he may or may not have tried to get an update, and what the administration told him. Again, all I am saying is be patient and wait for the information to be disclosed before ripping this guy a new one.</p>

<p>If he had reason to believe a ways down the road that it had not been reported, if he contacted DCS to report, but was unable to provide a name of the victim or even a good description (especially if time had passed)etc, DCS may not pursue if they have insufficient information to proceed.</p>

<p>“So even during the investigation was Sandusky still given access to the facilities?”</p>

<p>He was seen at PSU as late as last week. Just before this blew up.</p>

<p>As a number of posters just commented, McQueary had to know there was no investigation of the 2002 incident he witnessed because he was never questioned by police or Children’s Services. 2002 - 2009 is a long time to wait for someone to question you.</p>

<p>Well that proves the point. Even with an active investigation ongoing since 2009 he is still there. why would Sandusky not think an investigation had been occurring previously? Maybe someone told him that they didnt yet need to talk to him at that point. who knows</p>

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<p>Indeed. This is very difficult to comprehend. One would think that he would at least have discussed it further with his father, and that they would have taken some kind of a step.</p>

<p>Of course, maybe they did, and we just don’t know about it. Maybe it was another failure to act by the many individuals and entities that seem to have repeatedly failed to act in this case.</p>

<p>You’re right Consolation.
You did fail to get my point.</p>

<p>I was referring to the school principal Karen Probst, initially, and then in a later post clarifying that there were 2 superintendents within that period,for the same school district. I was not accusing, as you claim, the school superintendent.</p>

<p>Too many posts, from too many people, flying too fast.</p>

<p>Maybe McQueary thought or was led to believe that Sandusky was in treatment for his problem.</p>

<p>^^ He certainly needed treatment, but first and foremost he needed to be off the streets. McQueary knew that better than anyone else, and yet apparently never wondered why the animal wasn’t behind bars.</p>

<p>I don’t think McQuery thought anything at all. I don’t think any of them thought anything beyond what they absolutely could not avoid. I think, personally, that everyone involved just wanted to “put it out of their minds” and move on. I believe the great tragedy here will turn out to have been that nobody wanted to think about it or do anything about it. They all just went on as if nothing had happened.</p>

<p>In fact, I would not be suprised, at all, to find they never even spoke of it amongst themselves. </p>

<p>I believe for decades this is the way it happened in the Catholic Church, and I believe this is exactly what happened here. They simply kept minimizing it, so that it went from anal rape to horsing around, and they kept passing the information on to someone else. Once they had passed that information to the next person, I’m almost positive nobody asked about a thing. “Whew, glad I don’t have to talk about that again.”</p>

<p>The only one willing to really agitate for some answers was the mother of the most recent victim, and it took her several phone calls and meetings to get any answers. She finally went to CPS herself. Also, apparently, the current governor is not a big fan of pedophile run charity organizations, or even then, given the past history, nothing might have been done.</p>

<p>choco: you’re right. I come in here only intermittently, but I have a question that I can’t figure out:</p>

<p><em>**why did the 1998 investigation close? And no charges came out? What happened?
*</em><em>why is JoePa “not doing enough” when that first investigation closed? Does the GJ have more information that proves something?
*</em><em>what happened to that DA: suicide or was he killed? (I know it’s a big unknwn.) Is his disappearance related?
*</em>*the governor apparently was aware of this scandal-in-the-making. Why isn’t he charged?</p>

<p>And we shouldn’t conjecture what McQ or anyone was “thinking” because we’ll never know. I want to know the facts of this case.</p>

<p>At least can someone help me with this: how did this scandal finally get exposed? This thing has been stewing for quite a long time. What finally got it to go virual?</p>

<p>There was a “computer glitch” when they filed the GJ report and it was released to the public.</p>

<p>One must wonder, however, how that computer glitch occured.</p>

<p>McQ saw the crime occur. Both he & his father lack a moral compass; they should have called the police. Had the grad student thought of the child instead of himself, this would have been over 2 years ago; how many children would he have saved.</p>

<p>I did hear that a few days ago, poetgrl, but am not sure if it’s true.
Federal Grand Juries are secret, but not necessarily State ones.</p>

<p>It’s possible that in Pennsylvania the proceedings are secret, (which is why no-one even knew they were in progress) and the presentment is sealed until the prosecutor is ready to bring charges.</p>

<p>At which point, they’re made public?</p>

<p>only01, McQ saw the rape in 2002. That was 9 years ago. And McQ was 28 years old then.</p>

<p>“There was a “computer glitch” when they filed the GJ report and it was released to the public.”</p>

<p>That is true. But, I heard last night on CNN that some of the story came out last May, but it was not covered in the National news.</p>

<p>They speculated that was because of the reputation of PSU. Even the National media buried it.</p>

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<p>Limabeans:
I can try to answer some of these from what I have read.

  1. Mom was talked out of pressing charges in 1998 after Sandusky apologized. Everyone walked away.
  2. Paterno himself said he should have done more. He could have pushed, he could have been an anonymous source for a major newspaper and gotten the info out and investigated that way. He could have made sure Sandusky was not in his locker room on his field, or in contact with his players. He could have declined a position on Sandusky’s charity board, and declined compensation from same charity. Those are a few things he could have done differently.
  3. Good question about the DA, no clear connection has been made, but many inferences.
  4. Governor was the one that started the investigation that lead to this scandal prior to becoming governor. So not really in a position of being charged. </p>

<p>Hope that helps with your questions a little.</p>

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<p>True. And Joe Paterno, being the leader of the football team should have advised the grad student to go to the police and supported him during the report. It seems to me Joe Paterno failed his leadership role and was rightly fired.</p>

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<p>and for the life of me, I can not figure that one out. How was this “missed” last spring? I read that article, and it was pretty inclusive of what is now public knowledge.</p>

<p>The media buried it along with everyone else involved.</p>

<p>CNN (a PSU Communications Prof interviewed, expert on media) speculated it was because of the reputation of PSU.</p>

<p>The CNN anchor actually asked him the question why the National media did not cover it last May. Strange. Someone at CNN should have been able to answer why they didn’t.</p>

<p>Truth is stranger than fiction.</p>

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<p>Good. I’m happy to know you were not accusing DiNunzio of improper actions. </p>

<p>Perhaps if you simply said what you meant, instead of quoting material with no explanation, it would help avoid misunderstandings. As you say, many posts flying rapidly. Adding a few words would not go amiss.</p>

<p>It’s everywhere</p>