<p>I have learned a little bit by trying to follow the conversation about child protective agencies, something I don’t know anything about. Some have noted that one leaves a message on a recorder and it sometimes falls into a black hole.
I would also gather that if one suspected abuse or saw a dishevelled/unfed child at school day after day, this is correct to notify the agency so they may investigate and determine if some sort of abuse is occurring.
But if one WITNESSED a CRIME against a child, wouldn’t the witness FIRST phone 911? To me, it seems anything else would be secondary (except, of course, intervening to stop the crime if possible)
Leaving messages and notifying college authorities or school administrators would seem secondary.
I can’t imagine phoning my daddy.</p>
<p>LasMa,
Maybe people want this pedophile off the streets, but the legal system has its procedures to follow. He still isn’t locked up. I’ll bet he’ll be in a treatment facility before a jail cell.</p>
<p>jail might be the best “treatment facitilty” for him! General population.</p>
<p>Ashton Kutcher just tweeted to his 8 million followers that Paterno should not have been fired, that it was in poor taste.</p>
<p>Apparently he was not in the loop with the scandal, and got serious backlash from his followers. (AK thought it was due to poor coaching.)</p>
<p>The senile Lee Corso strikes again!! lol</p>
<p>[VIDEO:</a> Lee Corso Provides Awkward Moment During Penn State Warm-Ups](<a href=“http://www.businessinsider.com/video-lee-corso-awkwardly-asks-wheres-that-kid-during-penn-state-huddle-2011-11]VIDEO:”>VIDEO: Lee Corso Provides Awkward Moment During Penn State Warm-Ups)</p>
<p>Penn State is not alone!</p>
<p>[In</a> wake of Penn State, another college reveals abuse probe - Yahoo! News](<a href=“http://news.yahoo.com/wake-penn-state-another-college-reveals-abuse-230801672.html]In”>http://news.yahoo.com/wake-penn-state-another-college-reveals-abuse-230801672.html)</p>
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<p>I believe that is incorrect. If we are talking about Victim 6, the County Attorney General, Gricar (the guy who has since disappeared), decided there would be no criminal charges. I found this on Page 19 of the Grand Jury Report.</p>
<p>THIS IS NOT RIGHT!
[At</a> Penn State’s stadium, profanity, scorn greet one father’s protest - Washington Times](<a href=“At Penn State's stadium, profanity, scorn greet one father's protest - Washington Times”>At Penn State's stadium, profanity, scorn greet one father's protest - Washington Times)</p>
<p>The Kutcher tweet happened on Wednesday. Kutcher has since abjectly apologized.</p>
<p>[Ashton</a> Kutcher posts ?stupid? Twitter photo hours after vow to stop tweeting amid Joe Paterno scandal - NY Daily News](<a href=“http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/ashton-kutcher-posts-stupid-twitter-photo-hours-vow-stop-tweeting-joe-paterno-scandal-article-1.976194?localLinksEnabled=false]Ashton”>http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/ashton-kutcher-posts-stupid-twitter-photo-hours-vow-stop-tweeting-joe-paterno-scandal-article-1.976194?localLinksEnabled=false)</p>
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yes, I just noticed the date on what I was reading, and I do know that he apologized. Some of this instant media tweeting can be dangerous and embarrassing.</p>
<p>@chocoholic, I stand corrected. Yes, 9 years ago not 2 …I’d bet even more kids could have been saved …</p>
<p>There are so many layers to peel back regarding this case. Another layer to consider is that McQ grew up with Sandusky’s kids. Think back to your childhood friends and their parents. Perhaps McQ didn’t react initially as you or I would have because of the additional layer that Sandusky was the father of one of his childhood friends–a man he had known since he was a kid. To him, Sandusky wasn’t just a coach for Penn St. He was his friend’s father–an adult figure he had known as a kid and outside of the walls of Penn St. It’s easy for everyone here to imagine what they would have done had they walked into the scenario that McQ walked into. However, we don’t possess his psyche or his life’s experiences. </p>
<p>I’ve also heard that there was an instance (before the one McQ witnessed) where janitors walked into the locker room and witnessed Sandusky performing a sex act on a boy. Because the janitors feared the loss of their jobs, they didn’t report it. This goes to show you the power these coaches have within the school. People feared losing their jobs if they said anything against them.</p>
<p>A new layer to the case is the fact that Sandusky’s adopted son Matt may have been abused by him. Read up on it. Matt was placed in Sandusky’s care via foster care. The biological Mom suspected bad things were happening to him and requested that he be removed from the home. Matt is divorced and has kids of his own now. Matt’s ex-wife has filed a restraining order to keep the kids away from Sandusky.</p>
<p>This case is so much bigger than the Penn St. part of it. All of these families are inter-twined—the kid’s of coaches growing up together and their friendships. There’s the relationships and bonds between the coaches, the code of silence between them to insure that they all can maintain their power, and the public relations (and MONEY) concerns as priorities to the university’s administration. </p>
<p>What about the adoptions and the foster kids within in Sandusky’s home? Add to that his access to boys within the organization he founded for at risk boys. I have a feeling this case is going to get more horrendous as the layers start to be pulled back. IMO–the number of victims are far more than what has presently been estimated. My hope is that other victims will find the courage to come forward.</p>
<p>A lot of these people who ignored the truth have lots of money, so I hope these victims come forward with lawsuits that bleed them dry.</p>
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jym- When I spoke w/ my sister today she says that was the first thing my nephew thought. Nephew says if he had been told by his boss and his boss’s boss that everything had been taken care of – he would assume Sandusky pleaded guilty and was receiving treatment.</p>
<p>Shame on those people who harraseed the dad with the sign. But I am not surpised. I hope they see themselves as the sad little people they are. Football over all else. It’s the same mindset used in the roman days with the gladiators.</p>
<p>I for one have never understood they taking such personal pride in the athletic feats of others. Sure cheer them on, but to take wins and loses so close to the heart can’t be healthy.</p>
<p>The spikes in domestic violence after football home team losses is scary.</p>
<p>If i thought someone was in treatment for sexually assaulting children, in would be appalled to see him parading around young boys. Please, none of these men thought anyone else did anything, they are saying that now to cover themselves.</p>
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<p>Of course it’s not. But it sure gives the lie to the fiction that Penn State is about more than football.</p>
<p>vlines, good article. As usual, the “good Germans” close ranks. Disgusting people. They should take a lesson from the students.</p>
<p>I heard several times on various shows from experts that the average number of kids being abused by a pedophile is over 100+ victims over their entire life before getting caught. That is just a mind boggling number. Those 9 years could easily be 40-50+ kids that were abused. I think a lot more will be coming out and this is going to be a long drawn out criminal and civil proceedings. This is why everyone needs to be vigilant and cannot look away from any credible suspicion.</p>
<p>Hi all, I’m a new user here but I’ve been lurking on this site for a while now and have been following this thread. I would really like to find out more about what went on within the Sandusky family. As nysmile just mentioned, it seems as if one of Sandusky’s adopted sons, Matt, was possibly abused. Apparently Matt met Sandursky through Second Mile was placed in foster care with Sandusky. Both his biological mother and probation officer expressed concern about Matt’s safety and progress in the Sandusky household. Then four months after he went to live with the Sandusky’s he and another girl who was staying at the Sandusky house attempted suicide. Sound extremely odd and fishy to me…I wonder who the girl who was also staying in the household was.</p>