PhD at University of Georgia,Athens or University of Cincinnati?

Hello, I am international student and I will be pursuing my PhD in USA from this fall semester. I was hoping that someone can give me a clear idea about my dilemma:
Got Admitted into:

  1. PhD in Computer Science at University of Georgia, Athens
  2. PhD in Computer Science and Engineering at University of Cincinnati, Ohio

Scholarship amount offered:

  1. UGA - $12,193 (Teaching assistantship, Tuition waived but have to pay room and board,health insurance, tax with this amount per year, minimum 12 credit hr/ semester[not year], 13 hr work week)
  1. UC- $43,036(Scholarship[$20,936] and teaching/graduate assistantship[$22,100], Tution to be paid/year=$8000, offer includes health insurance but excludes room and board,tax , minimum 15 credit hr/year, 20 hr work week )

At which university should I pursue my PhD? Which program is better, CS or CSE?

Thank you for your help in advance.

Tution waived for a PhD is an offer I would not miss out on.

Choose UGA.

You shouldn’t have to pay tuition for a PhD program.

UGA (but how livable is $12,193 in Athens, GA?)

For a single person content with [sharing an apartment](athens, GA rooms & shares - craigslist) and never going out, it’s possible. There will be lots of rice, beans, and cabbage but the CoL in Athens is quite low. The bike and bus systems near campus are decently developed. The general lack of sub freezing temperatures will also help.

For UC: Deducting $8000(tuition) from $22,100(TA/GA) I am left with $14100 from which I guess only tax will be deducted and rest are paid for. For UGA though, my health insurance and tax have to be paid from $12,193 which will leave me with very little to do other things. Still, is it possible?

Major question: Why UGA over UC for a PhD in CS/CSE?
And do any of you know which one will be better, CS or CSE and why?

Thank you for your previous posts btw :slight_smile:

Tuition waived is great, but only if it leaves you enough to live on. Conversely, having to pay tuition out of pocket can be not-so-great, unless the tuition is really low and the amount is really high.

I’m assuming that since you can’t decide between the two, the research is equally appealing to you, and I checked rankings and it looks like within the field they are equally well-regarded. You’d probably know better, though - are you more likely to get the kinds of jobs you want from one or the other?

University of Cincinnati

First of all, why do you only have to pay $8,000 in tuition? Is that per year? Are you getting a discount? UC’s website says that the annual tuition and fees for non-resident graduate students is $26,210.

Anyway, let’s assume that you really are only paying $8,000 a year in tuition. You have a scholarship of $20,936 and a living stipend of $22,100. Let’s assume that your health insurance is $2,000 a year, and comes from the scholarship budget, so let’s say an even $10,000, which leaves you with about $11,000 from the scholarship. Even without assuming that the leftover amount from the scholarship can be used however you like, you still have a $22,100 living stipend - which is small but doable in a lower cost-of-living city like Cincinnati. If you CAN use the scholarship however you like, then you have $33,000 to live on.

University of Georgia

Yes, your tuition is covered, but you only have a $12,193 living stipend. That is only 103% of the federal poverty guidelines for a single person in the United States. You’ll pay virtually no tax on that, but let’s say that your health insurance is $2,000 a year, so make it $10,193. So let’s say that you have about $849/month to live on. To me, that sounds unacceptably low.

Athens has a relatively low cost of living; a quick search shows that you can probably rent a studio or share a 3-4 bedroom apartment for $300-500 (sharing is on the lower end; studio on the higher end). So let’s say you pay $400 in rent. Let’s assume that your total utilities in this share come out to like $50 and your personal phone bill maybe about the same, so that’s another $100. And let’s say you’re pretty frugal with food and you spend like $200 a month on groceries and food. That’s $700/month, leaving you with an additional $150 to spend on other requirements like entertainment, transportation, clothes, books, emergencies, savings, etc. That’s not even including a monthly bus pass. That sounds unacceptably low, even if you are eating beans and cabbage and riding the bus and never, ever leaving the house - which also sounds like a recipe for burnout!

Never having lived in Athens, I don’t know whether you need a car or not; I’m from metro Atlanta and you definitely need one there, and I currently live in a small college town and you need one here (well, I guess you could get along without one, but it’d be difficult and you’d have to live in a more expensive neighborhood, and during the summer when the buses run less often it’d be even harder). A car, obviously, would squeeze you.

Personally, unless you really preferred UGA for some reason - or had some reason to believe that your stipend would go up significantly in the next year or so (like, double) - I would much rather live frugally but comfortably at UC than panic and scrimp at UGA. A recent study that was covered by the CHE showed that students who have higher stipends finish more quickly and do more things that enable them to get jobs (publish, present, etc.) than students with lower stipends.

One of the important consideration, given that you can somehow make ends meet in both schools is which university has the research thatyou are most interested in. UGA is a more well-known school but there might be some very good faculty at Cincinnati and your research advisor is very important for your ability to get a position after graduation.

If the offer at UGA is unlivable (you might check with some other graduate students there to see how that works out) then choose Cincinnati. You don’t want to be in a situation where you are struggling to makeends meet and have to find another job on campus. This will only slow down your progress to the degree.