Suspect Jarvis was later found dead with apparently self inflicted gunshot wounds.
I’m willing to put up with some pain rather than get addicted to opioids. It’s not worth it.
I heard this story the other day and assumed it was IPV related because who the heck targets an orthopedist?!
Very, very sad. And honestly unnecessary because honestly he could’ve found the drugs on the street or gone doctor shopping. (Not saying he should but out of the two options…)
I’m assuming the killer was addicted to opioids and put his wife up to procuring them. But sometimes, they are necessary. My daughter had major surgery a few weeks ago and would have been in agony without the help of oxycodone. She used it for a few days, then switched to over the counter relief when she was able.
There needs to be a national registry for these drugs so that people can’t doctor shop and those who are addicted are given treatment.
This happened near our family cottage - so very sad. I don’t care how frustrated this guy was … taking the life of another is just not okay, period.
Just for clarification, I hope it didn’t sound like I was trying to justify this murder. That was certainly not my intention.
Most states do. And unless you’re going to the ER, it’s hard to get any out of state care.
My husband has had a couple of orthopedic surgeries in the last few years, one a hip replacement, and both times had VERY LIMITED prescriptions for oxycodone or hydrocodone. I mean, they gave him maybe two or three days worth. He didn’t use all of it. In 2010, I had a nerve pain problem that required me to use hydrocodone for about 2 months. I used it almost exclusively at night. As soon as the problem was fixed with accupuncture, I stopped using it, and felt no temptation at all to take it, because it didn’t make me high, I just needed the pain relief to sleep. (Unlike the percodan I had briefly for wisdom teeth in the late 70s. That stuff was incredibly addictive.)
I’m wondering who these doctors are who are handing out big prescriptions that are enough to cause actual addiction.
BTW, How can the police say that this was NOT fallout from the opioid epidemic?
bet the perp claims diminished capacity.
Percodan is oxycodone with aspirin. I believe hydrocodone and oxycodone are equally addictive.
Suspect is dead of apparently self-inflicted gunshot wounds. Being dead presumably means diminished capacity, though not the ability to claim it.
I thought the statement that it was NOT related to opioid abuse was a typo.
Orthopedists prescribe pain meds. H had two knee replacements and was given pretty strong pain meds by the surgeon.
You guys caused me to go back and reread it… but it doesn’t make any sense to me. “It’s not part of the problem so we have to examine the problem”?
Holy cow! I need two knee replacements, and I’m afraid of the pain already. I’m going to discuss ahead of time.
I took hydrocodone once after a surgery and had really freaky dreams/hallucinations. I’m not even sure which word describes it - I would be wide awake in bed hearing footsteps and people talking in the middle of the night, then I’d wake up and realize I’d been dreaming but now that I was awake I’d hear the voices and footsteps for real, then I’d “wake up” again, rinse and repeat all night. Afterwards I was never sure if I was dreaming or hallucinating. It was so freaky I only ever took the one pill and never touched it again.
It’s interesting (and unfortunate) how genetics can predispose people to different reactions to drugs, one of those reactions being addiction.
I hear you, @anomander!I took one pill after a very extensive dental procedure and felt so bizzare that I have never touched any painkillers again. After a laparoscopy I was OK with Tylenol and Advil. I dread the upcoming surgery - what if I need something stronger than just a couple of Advil? I am going to either grind my teeth or take a trip to the underworld. I think I prefer the former.
Some of the postop reactions could also be due to the anesthesia from the procedure combined with the oral narcotic. You might not have the same reaction if taken in isolation.
I might have said this before breaking my leg and needing orthopedic surgery to repair it. I truly needed opioids for about a month (especially since my doctor had vetoed the use of ibuprofen or similar medications because there’s some evidence they may interfere with bone healing).
I was careful. After the first two weeks, when the pain had lessened considerably, I only took the opioid at night, every second night (which meant that I only slept every second night). And I took it before physical therapy sessions because I couldn’t endure them without it. But the rest of the time, I only took Tylenol.
I didn’t get addicted.
This is interesting. I remember another thread where I mentioned my kids (one aged 15 when her teeth were removed) receiving hydrocodone after having wisdom teeth removed, which I disagreed. The oral surgeon gave them a weeks worth along with a refill, which I thought was awful. Some on this board seem to think it was an overreaction if I recall.
My husband is in extreme and debilitating pain from arthritis in his back (can’t have the shots in his back that might help because he threw a blood clot in his lungs after coming off blood thinner to have the first shot so doc won’t let him come off blood thinner right now). He refuses to let the doctor prescribe strong pain meds because he is so worried about addiction. Its actually a little frustrating.