Planning with family for Thanksgiving/Christmas and other holidays

@abasket , some “natural” doctors are not on board the mask train (and won’t be on board the vaccine train, perhaps). Or he’s just an idiot. SIL said that patients can wear a mask if they want, but only the very elderly do. He wouldn’t be my chiropractor!

@Lizardly - you all could be tested few days prior to getting together and then quarantine. It may mean fewer days together, but it would help to keep everyone safer.

My kids and their SOs are going to get tested 3 days before we get together and then quarantine themselves. It’s not fail safe, but it is the best we could do and it is a risk we are willing to take.

If only it were easy to get tested. I would sure love accurate at-home tests. It would make getting together a whole lot simpler.

The California Thanksgiving ‘rules’ are getting a lot of pushback. After all, who is going to enforce what goes on in people’s homes. The ‘requirement’ is no more than six at dinner. However 30 are permitted to attend a funeral. So the Facebook jokes are for having a funeral for the turkey. “In lieu of flowers, salads and side dishes are requested”.

The governor also wants dinner to be outside. If the winds are as bad as yesterday, the turkey would blow away.

One of the restrictions on our ‘dial’ (different stages) is that you can meet with a group of 10, but only 2 households. The example they gave was you could have dinner with two families of 5, but not five couples.

Things are changing county by county. Some school districts are going back to all virtual learning. It’s a nightmare.

Talked to my mom today. She’s going to my sisters for thanksgiving. My sister who is a health professional, one kid who works out of house but who seems from social media to have an active social life, another kid who will have just flown home from college. A nephew who I have no idea of what he’s been doing.

What could go wrong?

Mom is sure it’s a bad idea but she hasn’t seen them in a year. Never mind that my sister told her that they couldn’t visit this summer because her family hasn’t been careful. But apparently now it’s fine for mom to travel to them.

Right now, one of my kids has tickets to visit us which I think will probably not happen. I’m sure my sister will try to convince them to come to her house.

Not all airlines allow masks with vents. Southwest does not. SW also doesn’t allow bandanas or masks they consider to ‘lacy’ and porous.

Oh @deb922 that’s hard! My DH is our voice of reason every time I say “but I haven’t seen them in a year”. He just looks at me and says “You won’t be allowed to see them in the hospital, either”

Hang in there. I’m so sorry.

Your husband is very funny, @greenbutton. I’m going to have to borrow his response.

When DH says he’d like to go see the grandkids now, I tell him I’d like to be able to see them 5 years from now, 10 years from now. Can’t do that if I’m dead.

@TatinG - I thought I had read 3 households for TG in California, but I did see a meme on FB today that had that six people for TG/30 for a funeral/having a funeral for a turkey.

Do the rules vary from county-to-county there? @twoinanddone are you also in California?

I think we should start a support group here.

@twoinanddone – I don’t think all N95s are vented. we have some which are not.

I got a call from Maryland kid that he and his new wife would like to come over New Years. His plan would be to get a test, take leave and quarantine, get another test and come visit us. I don’t think he has quite enough time for the full 14 day quarantine, but it sounds like it will be close. He’s being sent overseas in the spring, so this would be his chance to pick up the last of his (and her!) stuff and get it either sent to his next post or put in storage as well as of course to see us. I’m thrilled, so trying to make plans so that we can also be reasonably quarantined before the visit.

Just received news today that the usual, large TG gathering on one side of our family has been completely cancelled by the hostess. She does not want anyone to feel obligated to attend — and I am sure, wants to cause no family drama over who would, or would not, choose to attend. I wish both sides of the family were as thoughtful about maintaining family harmony!

I don’t see the Ca guidelines for Thanksgiving being six people. What I’m reading is as @Hoggirl mentioned 3 households.

No, Colorado

It changes by county, and today Denver and another county moved to Level 3, which limits restaurants and gyms to 25 people or 25% of capacity, and there are several other rules about meetings and businesses. Grade schools went back to school last week, had a snow day on Monday, and will go back to remote learning for Nov (grades 3-5; middle and high school hadn’t returned).

But don’t worry, the Broncos can still have 5,700 fans on Sunday. There is a whole other set of rules for the state.

Costco is selling PCR COVID tests for $129, I think. ShawD said they look like the high quality ones.

She said that after three days in the AirBnB, she and BF and ShawSon are going to take a rapid test and a PCR test. The rapid tests are somewhat lower accuracy, but that way they can be more confident before coming to visit.

@abasket I feel you on those commercials. I know people who hated those commercials even before COVID. These are people who come from dysfunctional or abusive families or they’re estranged from their families. The idea of Christmas and Thanksgiving being all about family is hard for some people COVID or not…

Our traditions have changed a lot over the years. Kids growing up and starting families, people moving, people traveling, etc.
My stepdad, for the last two years, has gone to his sisters place. H and I and our kids would go to my stepbrother’s place. This year my stepbrother and his family are joining my stepdad at his sister’s place. We were invited, but we’re going to let them all be together.

For H’s side of the family, they all live far away. His younger brother and wife and daughter are just staying home, they invited H’s sister over (her husband passed away 3 years ago), but she is going to her son’s house (my nephew is in the navy and stationed about two hours from where she lives) for a few days. H’s older brother and his family are just spending time with his D, their son in law and their two kids and the other grandparents, like they have the last two years.

I don’t mind this Thanksgiving being different. It’s only one year (hopefully) and sometimes stuff changes!