Planning with family for Thanksgiving/Christmas and other holidays

I felt sad about the weirdness of asking my toddler grandkids to wear a mask, then I realised, to a two year old, being told to put a mask on is no weirder than being told to put shoes on, and possibly more tolerable. Heck, my nearly 3 year old GS is frequently facetiming with no pants, but that is working well for using the potty. The wee ones don’t know how strange this it to all of us.

EXACTLY! I had the exact same thought process. Generations were taught to hide under their school desks or to practice for school shooter drills . . .kids take their cues from us. If we matter of factly explain that masks are something we do now, they will go wiht the flow for the most part.

If people could be taught to wear bras, shoes, pants…they could be taught to wear a mask.

D1 hated wearing a hat, every time I put it on she would take it off and throw it on the ground. She is wearing a hat when it is cold out now (ok, she is 30).

I read a comment online a couple weeks ago, which said “I draw the line at people wearing masks in their cars!” Really emphatic about it. And I’m thinking, why do you care??? How does if affect you? Maybe their about to get gas. Maybe their stopping to talk to someone for a moment. Maybe it’s just easier for them. It can’t possibly affect anyone else, yet I’ve seen that complaint more than a few times. I seriously don’t get it.

I wear my mask in the car when I go to pick up my D, who is pregnant, to run errands. I don’t want my expelled breath filling the car for 20 minutes on my way to her house. And of course, we wear our masks when we are both in the car. I took a church member to an eye doctor appointment & did the same. Not sure why anyone on the outside looking in should think they have any right to judge … erring on the side of caution beats being careless any day.

The only problem I see with wearing a mask in a car is if it hinders your line of sight.

My bil is a surgeon, before this pandemic he wore a mask for long days of surgery. Now he wears his mask all day, every work day. He says he forgets he has it on, it’s just become a part of what he’s wearing. Like glasses I guess, except that the mask fogs ups the glasses which if I could solve that problem…

When he was asked on ABC News Tonight this evening by anchor David Muir what he is going to do this Thanksgiving, Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown University School of Public Health, replied:
“I’m not going to see my extended family this year, because I want to be able to see them next year and many years after that.”

@twoinanddone Who said it bothered me? I was just very perplexed by masks on a beach. Seems like someone realized it right away, the two ladies were likely trying to keep safe from each other.

I’m just perplexed that people actually think they’re keeping safe when they go to a restaurant inside and keep their mask on until the meal is served. No way for me. If you are sharing a meal indoors you’re likely sharing germs. But it’s kind of an emperor has no clothes thing in some cases. Everyone is following a different plan-some haven’t left their homes since March and some go out and follow their normal routines ( including yoga, exercise etc).

We wear masks ( except on that remote stretch of beach) and are pretty insulated. But I think about it a lot, especially as it related to individual decisions. At first, I was angry when I saw someone not wearing a mask. Now, I just wait and give them wide berth. I don’t care what anyone else is doing since not much is known 100% about masks or spread. Plus, there are people who can’t wear a mask for various reasons.

My in laws will not be going out for TG dinner, after all. I know that they are disappointed, but I certainly breathed a sigh of relief. Their AL facility has two active positive cases of Covid + 11 close contacts right now.

Talking to them tonight was sad for another reason, though, because they told H & me that one of our very favorite residents at their AL died. She was 98, and until recently had been a real dynamo. Circle of life and all that … we’ll sure miss her.

Well, as predicted with so many planning to travel for Thanksgiving, lots of news stories of long lines at testing centers.

Apparently ungettable in our area right now. H has appointment for this afternoon that we luckily booked last week…

The CDC just issued a guideline suggesting that folks NOT travel for the Thanksgiving holiday.

It’s very difficult to get testing here as well, and a number of additional test centers were set up. In addition, folks are being told that the turn around time for the result is more than 5 days away. Friend was tested last Saturday and got the results Wednesday.

Lines at testing centers are very long.

I never understood the getting tested on day 1, traveling in 3-5 days, getting tested on say day 6, and then rejoining the world if it is negative.

What if one person tests positive from the day 1 test? Is the entire trip cancelled? What if everyone is negative and then one person tests positive from the arrival test? Does everyone then quarantine at the vacation location? In an hotel? With the hosts? For how long?

They shut down a couple of our big drive thru test centers in September because no one was using them, numbers were down, life was good.

Yesterday the lines were hours long at one of the remaining metro drive thru testing centers (and it is not central, pretty far north of the city).

@twoinanddone IF our son had planned to travel here (he is not), he would have quarantined, tested before he left and quarantined until results and his flight happened…because he would not have wanted to travel and infect others.

And yes, he would have tested again here on arrival (required…or quarantine) and test again on day three of his trip here.

But he’s not coming. Too many hoops to jump through…he is responsible.

Plus, he feels (and i agree) that the holidays are going to be bigger travel days than some “off week” in February or March

My college student son will have a test when he gets home but we will not have results before Thanksgiving. His school does not test asymptomatic students so we have no option to get him tested before he travels. H and I have decided that we will take our chances and not have him quarantine from us but my mother has decided not to come for dinner. Looks like it will just be the three of us. I’m glad we have a small turkey.

I think no matter who is going to test/double test/ quarantine, that there will be a lot of covid-19 spread in the U.S. over the next six weeks or so.

H just officially called off our trip to FIL’s. He said FIL seemed disappointed. I feel for both of them - and who knows if they will change their minds last minute TBH. It will also depend upon FIL’s health between now and then (falls, etc).

Personally I don’t mind staying here with just the four of us (who live together), but I feel for anyone who’s alone and doesn’t want to be.

I was excited about the new at-home test announced a couple days ago … very reliable results at home in less than an hour. At $50, it’s not cheap, but a lot of people would be able to afford it. However, there is a caveat: A doctor’s prescription is required. That pushes the cost way up if the doctor requires an office visit to prescribe (even online costs money) … and it also means it’s not really available on demand. We really need to figure out a way to truly make testing available and affordable if we are going to get this pandemic under control. Clearly, the government isn’t interested in focusing on this right now.

For testing whether one is “safe” to meet relatives, one would ideally need a test that can be done every day and produces results quickly. This is because one negative result could be negative because one is currently in the early incubation period and could become contagious in a day or few. Also, someone could get infected after the test. Tests which require 2-3 days of waiting for results add more problems here. Hence the need to be extra-careful in avoiding exposures for several days before, and every day after, a one-shot test before a family gathering.

At $50 per test (beyond any costs getting a prescription for it), the Lucira at-home quick test would get quite expensive if everyone in a family gathering used it every day for several days up to and during the family gathering. Also, it will not have nationwide availability until next spring, too late for the winter holidays and associated family gatherings.