<p>Is her sport D1 and NCAA?</p>
<p>Brown is D1 NCAA, but does not offer athletic scholarships, may be that’s what makes the difference. At UW, a Pac-10 D1 school, athletes do have priority registration, and some might even have “priority priority” :)</p>
<p>mamabear; I understand what you’re saying about all the hype on Terrelle Pryor, but you are talking about the ultimate minority. Terrelle Pryor is the #1 football draft pick in the entire country. When you are the #1 sought after player, there is definitely going to be hype. Especially when the 2 main schools you are thinking about are 2 of the country’s biggest rivals; Michigan/Ohio State.</p>
<p>Terrelle Pryor could have just as easily been from Texas. At which case you wouldn’t know anything about him unless you specifically looked at scout, rivals, or ESPN recruiting. You just happen to be around where the #1 recruit in the country happens to come from.</p>
<p>All that aside; there is no difference between an athlete getting a scholarship or a musician, artist, 2400 SAT recipient, etc… Each student has certain skills and talents that make them a little better and make them stand out. If they can parlay that talent into a scholarship and are able to get a college education out of it, then more power to them.</p>
<p>As far as going straight from high school to the pros in football; that would be extremely difficult. The players go through a lot of physical growing and maturing in college. With the exception of maybe kickers and the very rare phenom player, an 18 year old football player in the pros would get creamed. Nothing against basketball and that they and baseball both do it; as well as hockey; but they most definitely are not football. Those minimum 2-3 years of college experience is very important not only to develop skills but strength and safety.</p>
<p>Collegemom16…
I am not well versed on all that you ask but here is a quote from Brown Athletics:</p>
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<p>They abide by the NCAA rules. Like BunsenBurner mentions, there are no athletic scholarships. I am not sure how relevant these points are because your point was about the number of hours required for practice and about athletes getting priority treatment for registration of classes. I outlined the required hours (which for my D are even off campus and out of state…currently that her hours off campus are 65 hours per week!!) and she has to register for classes like any other Brown student. Like I said, some classes are very hard to get into for other reasons. As well, she must work the classes around major blocks of time she has to be at practices and off campus. She also is involved in OTHER extracurricular activities and leadership roles. As well she was a TA for a course in one department last semester and is a TA for a course in another department this semester and that means on top of her OWN courses. I won’t bother to mention the other activities she is commited to as well. (not to mention being immersed in graduate school applications and portfolios for admission) I have noticed NO special treatment of athletes on her team but that’s fine by me.</p>
<p>NCAA D1 programs are allowed by the NCAA to have up to 20 hours of practice per week. Not every sport played at college is NCAA. At many D1 schools athletes are given priority registration with specialized advisors so that the coach can be assured he has his entire team in practice at the same time for those 20 hours. It seems like the athletic director at Brown is doing his coaches and student athletes a disservice by not giving them more support. It must be a great burden to maintain teams.</p>
<p>I don’t feel that the athletic director at Brown is doing ANY disservice to coaches or students and I do not feel ANY lack of support, particularly on the academic front (except during freshmen year when the university almost didn’t let the team attend National Championships as they didn’t like the idea of the students missing a full week of school…this after they earned the spot…they DID end up going and have ever since). You mention that the coach needs to be assured he has his entire team in practice at the same time…Well, let me assure you that my D’s coach has the entire team in practice at the same time! The practices take place in this semester (not the case for the hours in fall semester) OFF campus and out of state midweek as well as all the competitions are out of state. The girls must attend all of them. They must schedule their classes around the committed training sessions. Everyone is there at the same time.</p>
<p>In my opinion the coach is lucky to have such committed athletes. I wonder if all of the sports at Brown are that lucky. I would expect there to be huge attrition rates due to inconvenience for the athletes. Is it difficult to get classes? I think the students are getting the short end of the stick not getting any support with academic advising and registration. I would expect at least that much since they are voluntarily out there representing Brown.</p>
<p>Perhaps the lack of support has something to do with the sport? I am not taking away from the effort the ski team puts in, but it is one of those sports that is not part of the campus culture & attracts virtually no spectotors. I would bet that teams that have a loyal campus following, and may even be part of campus traditions & pre/post game events, have more support. I would not want my kids doing a demanding sport wihout someone from the athletic department acting as an advocate for fixing problems that arose from conflicts in scheduling, etc.</p>
<p>A good example is Notre Dame, where even the BArch students, who must spend an entire year studying in Rome, are allowed that flexibility. THere is an extensive support program that aids athletes in all aspects of college life:
<a href=“http://und.cstv.com/student-dev/nd-student-develop.html[/url]”>http://und.cstv.com/student-dev/nd-student-develop.html</a></p>
<p>I think part of the issue here is that MOST schools - maybe NOT Brown (even tho I think that it is there if really needed) - have a support system in place for their team members. Most schools have priority registration for athletes - and honors students as well - most schools have some type of advising help for athletes - there are many scenerios that can encompass this issue - but I have NEVER heard of a student/athlete who could not/did not have some type of help/advisement - if needed.</p>
<p>Student/atletes who are not in need of any assistance/support - and never utilize them - may not be fully aware of them. Some schools/coaches actually require this support to be utilized - even if only for study purposes.</p>
<p>today is national signing day for football. SOME of them will go to class. :D</p>
<p>One of the girls from my D’s barn is on a Div 1 equestrian team. She has mandatory study hall.</p>
<p>citygirlsmom - welcome to the underbelly of CC. Sports is an absolutely sacred topic for many, many CC’ers.</p>
<p>The underbelly, in YOUR opinion maybe. Not an opinion shared by very many.</p>
<p>^ like I said . . .</p>
<p>mammall are you aware of the number of excellent career opportunities in sports? Are you aware of the number of majors that are centered on sports? Like it or not there are many students who are interested in pursuing these opportunities. Not everyone wants to be a doctor and study biology.</p>
<p>academics are WAY overrated. I get paid to write papers and books, but I am the only in my office of 104.</p>
<p>Yes students who study kinesiology, sports marketing and physical therapy (to name just a few sports related majors) do no academic work.</p>
<p>No, I said it is overrated. I love my cardiac rehab therapists, my health club trainer and the folks who own the place, all of whom do a great job, all of whom went to college on athletic scholarships, none of whom was great in the classroom (not a “scholar-athlete” among 'em), all of whom graduated, few of whom read or write for pleasure or for work, and all of whom contribute greatly to my quality of living and that of my community. </p>
<p>(I wish I could say the same of all the failed geek wannabes.)</p>
<p>Gotcha mini, we agree. 
But…many athletics related majors are academic and many athletes are excellent students as well.</p>
<p>Well, ur . . . yeah! No question. And society indeed depends upon them!</p>
<p>Sorry, guys, can’t help myself. I watch sports! My kids do sports! I’m not from Mars. I just think the sports mania is . . . excessive.</p>