<p>[Student</a> link cited in Harvard killing - The Boston Globe](<a href=“http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/05/23/police_say_harvard_killing_was_drug_rip/?page=1]Student”>http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/05/23/police_say_harvard_killing_was_drug_rip/?page=1)</p>
<p>Interesting that the president’s name is Faust…</p>
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<p>I already knew this from watching “Weeds”.</p>
<p>Interesting also that the woman who provided the key card access was immediately booted whereas the Harvard student who plagiarized a novel continues on her merry Harvard way.</p>
<p>So you don’t think that putting fellow students in serious physical danger merits the strongest possible response from Harvard? We differ.</p>
<p>I think bringing physical danger to fellow students EASILY trumps some plagiaizing charge. After all many of our better writers have done it from time to time. Nobody dies.</p>
<p>There are so many highly qualified students who know better than to plagiarize (which is stealing) or violate residential housing policies. People who demonstrate seriously poor character or who put others in danger need to lose their spot. Better to learn the lesson now then to grow up and be an Enron type later on.</p>
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<p>My understanding of the story is that a student gave her boyfriend key card access to her dorm – which must happen all the time without violent consequences.</p>
<p>That’s not the same thing as being an accomplice to murder.</p>
<p>In the case of the plagiarist, she clearly was personally responsible for wrongdoing of the sort that Harvard should not tolerate.</p>
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<p>I agree with this statement.</p>
<p>Giving a person who is not a Harvard student a Harvard key card, if that’s what happened, is a huge breach, and definitely does not happen all the time. Particularly when the non-student is a drug dealer. I’ve known drug dealers…their girlfriends know damn well what they do.</p>
<p>Lending your Access Card to an unauthorized person should not be an expellable (sp) offense, unless as a result somebody gets murdered. </p>
<p>Oh…wait!!..somebody did.</p>
<p>I think the critical question is why did she loan her boyfried the access card? Did she think he was running in to use bathroom, or grab a jacket he left in her room? What is disconcerting to me is the newspaper article indicates he had two other men with him. Again, did all three say to her - we need to use the facilities? The woman is identified as his long time girl friend. If she thought they were illegally entering the building to use the bathroom, one thing – if she thought they were entering to conduct any drug related business, even if she did not forsee the murder, that is a serious issue. </p>
<p>And I agree the plagerist should have been dealt with more severely than she was – but that doesnt take away from the present case.</p>
<p>The guy who is charged with murder lives in New York and was visiting his girlfriend who attends Harvard. He brings two friends with him and they arrange to meet and rob a Harvard drug dealer. Either they knew the dealer and had bought drugs from him before or someone who knew the dealer helped arrange the meeting. Neither scenario looks good for the Harvard girlfriend.</p>
<p>Catera, my guess is the NY group either bot or sold drugs to the Cambridge guy. My guess is that for the girl to be immediately expelled and thrown off campus is the school has other things they arent telling. A son of a friend of mine who went to SUNY Albany ( I know, not same level) roomed with 2 guys who were dealing hard drugs. The school did nothing about it. Its amazing how when schools start “substance free” dorms, they get oversubscribed.</p>
<p>This isn’t an expulsion – it’s a suspension. In other words, the student hasn’t been barred from graduating, she’s been barred from graduating <em>this</em>spring_. If this all turns out to be a mistake on Harvard’s part, she’ll get her degree and another opportunity to walk at commencement.</p>
<p>One newspaper is now reporting she will receive her diploma, but will not at this time be allowed to participate in graduation ceremony.</p>
<p>Here’s an article on her from today’s Boston Globe:</p>
<p>[As</a> graduation nears, a Harvard senior finds herself in trouble - The Boston Globe](<a href=“http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/06/02/as_graduation_nears_a_harvard_senior_finds_herself_in_trouble/?page=1]As”>http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/06/02/as_graduation_nears_a_harvard_senior_finds_herself_in_trouble/?page=1)</p>
<p>The article doesn’t clarify the student’s status, just states that she is currently being barred from participating in the graduation ceremony.</p>
<p>I’d love to know the whole story here. Her friend, who was the girlfriend of the accused shooter and let him use her card key, is still on campus and will graduate? I read that on another site but that makes no sense. Perhaps it was this girl who lured the drug dealer to the dorm to be robbed?</p>
<p>Catera, I think you are mistaken. The key card used by the shooter was that of Campbell in every paper I have read. She was quoted as saying she did not give the card to the shooter “that day”. My guess – any lawsuit of Campbells will go nowhere. According to a HLS friend of mine, she had been given a meeting with school admin and was told why she was being thrown off campus. </p>
<p>I am not sorry for her. She had been given every advangtage and threw it away. I feel sorry for kids who never had a chance.</p>
<p>Of course, all of her relatives and friends are probably already there in Cambridge for graduation. </p>
<p>I’m not sure what Harvard’s reason is for not letting her walk in graduation. They aren’t saying. The boy who has been arrested for the murder doesn’t sound like drug scum from NY. The first article described him as:</p>
<p>“Copney has no prior criminal history and lives with his sister and mother in New York City, according to Carney. His father is a retired New York City police officer and his mother is a New York City employee.”</p>
<p>Is she the first person who loaned their swipe card to someone who wasn’t allowed access? I know that some of my D’s roommates had overnight guests–I’ll have to ask her how the system worked…her sister went to visit her for 5 days once.</p>
<p>Of course, lending your swipe card to someone who then tries to rip off a drug dealer and ends up killing him…well, that was BAD luck.</p>