<p>Wazzu didn’t even make the list–they are slipping in Pullman.</p>
<p>Not according to D, who is privvy to her cousins facebook</p>
<p>Apparently these lists are created using data provided by Princeton Review users/students. If so, isn’t that a sort of self-selected sampling population? There’s not hard data behind the rankings- alcohol consumption, ER visits, disciplinary records- isn’t it all just “come one and all- join in on our survey and vote for your favorite party schools…”?</p>
<p>OK so my alma mater made top party school…DS school made the top Stone Cold Sober listl…
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<p>I did something right</p>
<p>St. Olaf students just go over to Carleton to party.</p>
<p>As I said before, this is something of a “rotation” list. If your favorite party school dropped off, it will be back in a year or two.</p>
<p>Randolph-Macon College in Ashland is ex-husband’s alma mater. At that time it was a “college for Southern genlemen.” The level of drunk and disorderly behaviour stunned me (I’m from someplace else). I’m pretty sure Princeton means the one in Ashland.</p>
<p>Apparently things at Wisconsin have changed.</p>
<p>From the UW sports board</p>
<p>"FWIW, I’ve noticed a downward trend in partying at Wisconsin. Football Saturdays and Halloween still rage on, but weeknight drinking and Mifflin have really diminished over the last few years.</p>
<p>I had multiple friends who bartended at places like the KK, Brats, and Mondays who said they were really hurting compared to years past because their weeknight crowds (even on their big nights) were way down."</p>
<p>Its also pretty expensive to go out drinking- a beer at a baseball game recently was $8!</p>
<p>Way back when I was in college, alma mater was listed as the #3 drinking school in the Preppy Handbook. Our students were quite offended - there was no way those kids at Dartmouth drank more than us! Sad to say, the reputation was earned. I think it’s calmed down a lot in the last 25 years - the laws changed, and greek presence has been reduced by 2/3. At least I hope it’s calmed down… DS starts his frosh year at alma mater tomorrow!</p>
<p>I’m pleased to see that neither Notre Dame nor Ohio State made this list. :)</p>
<p>Since the PR ranking doesn’t appear to be based on any kind of real statistics, my question is this:</p>
<p>Is there a survey of all campuses that indicates per capita drinking by school? I’ve seen overall figures thrown about (45% of all college students drink…) and other variables (more drinking at smaller colleges, more drinking in the northeast, with heavy frat emphasis, less in black or single sex colleges, etc…) but I’ve never actually seen figures BY COLLEGE for per capita alcohol usage.</p>
<p>Does anyone know if there ever has been an accurate study done of per capita alcohol consumption by campus?</p>
<p>When I was in school (70-74), Playboy annually ranked the top drinking and party schools. My freshman and sophomore year we were #1; the next year we dropped significantly but with an asterisk. The explanation for the drop was that their panel of judges felt that it was unfair to rank professionals with amateurs…LOL…seriously…</p>
<p>The school…Marquette in Milwaukee…there wasn’t much else to do in those cold Wisconsin winters.</p>
<p>Which school would want to be known as a Party School?? If on top of that, you happen to make the list also of “Students (Almost) Never Study” it is not going to be good news… ( University of Florida )</p>
<p>My parents tell me that the University of Miami tried very hard to get rid off that reputation back in the 80s, when T shirts read Sun Tan U…</p>
<p>“Does anyone know if there ever has been an accurate study done of per capita alcohol consumption by campus?”</p>
<p>Doubleplay, how would someone even go about doing an “accurate” study. Wouldn’t it all have to be self-reported? </p>
<p>I think the answer is obvious - there’s too much drinking on MOST college campuses.</p>
<p>Isn’t this list ever-changing enough to remind us that pretty much any school can have a party atmosphere? Like dbwes, I was wondering where UWisconsin was, as it seems to have led the pack for a couple of years?</p>
<p>USC?</p>
<p>The truth on the Playboy ranking myths.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.snopes.com/college/admin/playboy.asp[/url]”>http://www.snopes.com/college/admin/playboy.asp</a></p>
<p>Lafalum,
When I was a freshman in college, they had us do a drinking/drug use survey. It was serious though (not the self-selected popularity contest of PR/Playboy best and worst lists). We had to take the survey in conjunction with all our placement tests (they didn’t have AP back in the days!) so it wasn’t really “self-selected”. I don’t know what agency was conducting it.</p>
<p>About 20 minutes of answering every conceivable combination of words that basically all asked, “how much and how frequently do you drink/use drugs?” So someone must be interested. Although the survey was anonymous, unlike the placement tests :eek:.</p>
<p>Well, now that I think about it, our high school kids take a similar survey every other year. The school uses the results to design the health curriculum. They ask about everything from drinking to drugs to sex to depression/suicidal thoughts to using seatbelts. I don’t know how honestly the kids answer, the survey is confidential. But the school administration takes it seriously.</p>
<p>About the honesty, it’s probably the best they’re going to get, as long as it’s anonymous. Although even in anonymity, honesty isn’t always the rule of the day. Certainly, it’s better than an internet “who wants to participate?” type survey.</p>
<p>Come to think of it, I was pretty honest at the time. Of course, I was only 18!</p>
<p>“Is there a survey of all campuses that indicates per capita drinking by school? I’ve seen overall figures thrown about (45% of all college students drink…) and other variables (more drinking at smaller colleges, more drinking in the northeast, with heavy frat emphasis, less in black or single sex colleges, etc…) but I’ve never actually seen figures BY COLLEGE for per capita alcohol usage.”</p>
<p>There are no surveys of per capita drinking by college. There are very accurate surveys of binge drinking in past two weeks, heavy drinking (bingeing 3 or more times in two week period, or 2 or more drinks near daily), and abstinence from drinking. Virtually every school has the data for their own school, and if you ask the college’s “alcohol and drug coordinator”, they are required to give it to you. The entire list, however, is proprietary, and part of the deal to ensure participation is that the authors and surveys (Harvard School of Public Health and Southern Illinois University) will not make any of the data by school public without the school’s express permission.</p>
<p>However, many schools publish their own data in the campus newspapers and on their websites as part of “social norms marketing campaigns”. Others have it revealed unwillingly in campus newspapers, etc. </p>
<p>The major surveys are done every five years: last Harvard School of Public Health was 2002 (they did one this year, but it won’t be out til next); SIU I think was in 2004. </p>
<p>The question though is what is it that you are trying to find out. Per capita data doesn’t exist. If, however, you want to know if a school is a heavy drinking place, you can very accurately (though with a few outlyers) predict that without data for an individual school, simply by surveying the 8 characteristics associated with binge drinking.</p>
<p>But some of the schools that meet those criteria (I’m focussed on two in particular as a matter of personal interest) are also on the list of top 20 schools for classroom experience.</p>