Pre-med questions? Ask here.

<p>I would like to get some inside experience about Bio/Eng or Bio/Create Writing minor. The courses load? amount of work in English? Their experience with Writing or English classes?</p>

<p>The english department is easy. I took two english classes (English 160 the WIM and a senior seminar) last fall along with Bio 41. It worked out fine. And yes, I also wrote all my papers the night before they were dude.</p>

<p>by dude, i mean due.</p>

<p>Any recommendations of taking Chem 35, chem 36 Bio Core and Fiction Writing in ne quarter. The Fiction Writing is the pre-require for “creative Writing” minor, however I concern abut the work load.</p>

<p>For people with double majors in Bio and English, or Bio with minor in Creative writing as for Pre-med, do they finish in 4 years?</p>

<p>Yes, they can finish in 4 years. I highly recommend talking to a UAR advisor, bio department advisor, and/or English department advisor about workload and planning your schedule. They know more than we do.</p>

<p>You can drop 36 and take it in the spring if you worry about the courseload. Don’t worry about finishing your orgo labs early.</p>

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Agreed. I do think it’s handy to have taken the labs before you take the MCAT, though, because there may be questions about chemical tests or lab technology.</p>

<p>Meh, the only thing that “may” come up is chromatography, which can be learned in about five minutes; I’ve looked at 7 MCATs from the AAMC now…orgo is considerably less emphasized now than it used to be, and just about everything you need is given in the passage. :-/</p>

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jwj… not true. I just took the MCAT in April, and there was an entire passage (~5 questions) regarding lab techniques. It was an awful puzzle that involved things like “Start with this molecule. Do a Tollen’s test and get compound B. Do another test and get compounds C and D, one of which is an enol. Do more things to it and you eventually get compound G. Question: what is compound F? Question: What reagent is used in a Tollen’s test?” Evil things like that. Not all tests have o-chem lab questions to this degree, but my point is that it is a real possibility.</p>

<p>Orly? Weird. I haven’t heard anything near that freaky for any of the summer MCATs, and mine definitely didn’t have anything that complicated–just a few acid-base questions and some basic redox. Then again, I’m prolly biased cuz I think orgo is easy… -__-;;</p>

<p>OH!!! You’re so lucky to not have had any evil o-chem lab questions. I didn’t know you already took the MCAT - hope it went well!</p>

<p>I’m also sorry I keep missing your calls :frowning: You keep calling me when I’m at home.</p>

<p>how much work is involved for beginner language courses? say, if i wanted to start learning chinese while i do chem 31, a basic calc class and ihum in a quarter…does anyone know how that schedule would be?</p>

<p>Hmm… I haven’t taken Chinese, but my freshman year roommate took the beginning Chinese classes for the whole year. It seemed to be a lot of work, but she handled it well. I’m not sure if she had 2 or 3 other classes. I think you should be able to handle your schedule, but I’m sorry I don’t have more concrete info for you.</p>

<p>Was this a premed question…?</p>

<p>TJ_03: What calc class did you have in mind? Four classes is always going to be a lot of work, and I think I would advise against doing it first quarter of your freshman year.</p>

<p>Not really. Just do it. The workload for those 4 isn’t particularly bad. At the least, try it for a week or two and see how you manage. Chem 31A/B/X isn’t bad if you have some basic background and keep up with the reading, Chinese is a lot of memorizing characters and then just trying to speak in class, IHUM is, well, IHUM, and neither the math 20 or 40 series is difficult–they’re ridiculously elementary, actually.</p>

<p>thanks for all the input. yeah, i was planning on doing the math 40 series since i did calc but never took the ap exam or did any hard-core work for my calc class. and celestial, i want to do the pre-med reqs (hence the math/science in my schedule) but it would’ve made sense if i had posted in the other forum, so sorry about that ;)</p>

<p>TJ_03, you might consider delaying your Math classes until later on your freshman your, or even back as far as Fall Qtr, Sophmore year. If you’re truly taking them just to get rid of your pre-med req’s (and not so you can continue with more advanced math classes), there’s no reason not to wait, especially if taking them earlier meant a fourth class.</p>

<p>The Chem 31/33 series is manageable, but it will take a fair chunk of your time, and trust me, there is no worse feeling than finishing one problem set, only to have to finish another one later that night. That feeling, or any situation that could give rise to it, should be avoided at all costs.</p>

<p>I agree with the advice from jwj and docketgold. I do think that you should do your chem as a freshman to get it out of the way; there are some other classes that list chem as a pre-req or recommended class. Try all 4 classes for a week or 2 (the official shopping period is 2 weeks) and if you can’t handle it all, the one to drop is probably math, which you can take pretty much anytime. Another option to drop would be Chinese, which you could also take later.</p>

<p>@docket & TJ: yes, having lots of psets can suck, but chem and math psets are due on different days, and more than manageable, even if some procrastination happens (as it probably will).</p>

<p>@TJ: if you want to drop anything, Chinese might be a good choice for being first, simply because it requires the most memorization (all those characters and strokes). Also, the homework can be kind of annoying (write these characters ten times each, etc.) Then again, it doesn’t require you to think like math. Your call.</p>

<p>Any thoughts about taking 3 sessions of “General Physics” at Santa Clara University over the summer?</p>

<p>Or taking them at Stanford?</p>