<p>I wasn’t trying to be rude, and I know everyone is really anxious and nervous, but come on, another chance thread when you can just wait two more days to find out? Whatever, I guess we all have different ways of dealing with the wait.</p>
<p>Fair enough, i couldn’t really tell what tone you were adopting in the post… but yeah it’s tough, to each his/her own - like, I’m not doing chance threads, but instead, I’m watching marathons of law and order (6 or 7 every night) to deal with it</p>
<p>Dude this isn’t a chance thread. All you know about me from this thread is m SAT and GPA. A chance thread has much more than that. This is a sort of gambelin topic. Look at a graph and guess, I didn’t ask to more.</p>
<p>And you like looking at a inactive forum? Well that’s your opinion.</p>
<p>Active forums for the win!!! 
and to answer your question, it’s really hard to say, i think the scatter plot says alot, but you never know man. Maybe the commission says, hm, we need more Egyptians this year, oh look there’s Silence, the only Egyptian applying, let’s take him because we REALLY like his essays and recs!</p>
<p>@Silence
Predicting whether you would be accepted or not is the definition of a chance thread.</p>
<p>You know if I am the only Egyptian applying, that would be a miracle. From personal experience (friends and such), Egyptians tend to do bad at school…in the process of fitting in (I’m not like that)…so there is a chance that, that is the case.</p>
<p>Man, if I get in somehow, I’ll get a huge chocolate cake, cut it into pieces and send it to all Coll Conf’ers by plane lol.</p>
<p>I say you have a shot, not a great one since Columbia has such a low admissions rate, but I’d say that you have as much of a shot as any of the other people. You’re in the green box zone.</p>
<p>@duermo: Well then look at the other half of the cup, this graph just proved that GPA is more important than SAT. Good?</p>
<p>it’s absolutely impossible to say anything from that chart. all it says is that people from your school have been accepted with worse stats and people have been accepted with better. without knowing any more details about those dots and you you can’t really say anything about your chances at all, especially considering that all the gpas are contained in a relatively small range of scores. i guess the obvious thing to say is that you fall on the line, but as the many red x’s show that doesn’t necessarily suggest anything.</p>
<p>also, while i would agree that gpa is more important than the sat i’m not sure how you got that from the graph. it shows that there are people with low sat and high gpa that get in, but there are surprisingly few points at the top end of the sat spectrum, so it’s difficult to tell how many applicants get in with the opposite (high sat, low gpa) which is a matter of particular personal concern for me.</p>
<p>On a side note: you have SO many applicants from your school. That looks like the scattegram for my state flagship university, and there were over 200 dots on my graph. Did you seriously have that many applicants to Columbia in just 3 years?!</p>
<p>@Axel: Well this is how I came to my conclusion:</p>
<p>As you can see on the graph, they stopped accepting anything under an 85%</p>
<p>As for the SAT, they denied people with 2300+</p>
<p>2chillaxan: Yup. My school is the largest in the USA. Our senior class might be 5x yours.</p>
<p>It does appear that there is a certain GPA cutoff on the chart. Silence, what did you indicate your race as? I was just wondering how they would know you are Egyptian.</p>
<p>I have about 50 people in my senior class. Your senior class is definitely waaaay more than 5x mine.</p>
<p>@duermo: in the demographics part I said I was born in Cairo, Egypt.</p>
<p>@Cillaxan: mine has 1,133</p>
<p>^^^
But you put white as your race, right? If so, being Egyptian isn’t a significant hook alone. On the graph, there are people who were accepted with lower stats than you, but we don’t know if they were URM’s/recruited athletes/cancer-curers or what not. I think the large amount of red x’s for people with stats higher than you is more telling than the few people who got in with worse stats than you. So while you do have a chance, as does everyone, I don’t think that chance is very large. But who knows, maybe the admissions officers loved your application and you’ll get in!</p>
<p>Do you go to one of thos NYC specialized schools?</p>
<p>that’s not a very good comparison. better ones would be that they stopped accepting people with gpas around 85 or sat around 1700, or that they rejected people with 98+ averages or 2300+ sats. even then, an accurate comparison depends on setting some quality comparison by which you compare gpa and sat, like a gpa of blah is roughly equivalent in quality to an sat of bleh, which varies steeply from school to school. at your school the box indicates an equivalence of 95 and 2040, but then further analysis depends on an approximate rate of change (this many points of sat/1 gpa point), which is very hard to distinguish at your school with all the gpas clustered so closely.</p>
<p>also, if you take a vertical line tool on an image editor (hey, i have time) and draw from the 2300 part on the bottom up the graph up, there’s only one data point beyond it and one data point on it. both are blue diamonds. the last few red x’s are slightly before 2300. the point isn’t that they reject very few people beyond 2300, the point is that it’s very difficult to tell because there’re only 2 data points, both with indefinite results.</p>
<p>@Duermo: True. I never meant Egyptian as a URM hook, but rather it would increase Columbia’s nationality diversity…a hook of that sort.</p>
<p>And Btw my school does not have much URMS…you need to take an exam to get in, and they have a non-holistic approach. That’s why it’s so competitive.</p>
<p>@banned: yes lol</p>
<p>@axel: that is true. And I would go with the first: they had a 85 cut off and 1780 SAT cut off. But notice that they accepted a very low sat (1780) with an decent GPA (93…3.8). But for the the lowest GPA (85-86) with a relatively low sat …1880-1890.</p>
<p>And of course I agree with the rest that you said, but for the sake if the graph I’m just asking based only on the graph.</p>