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@Hunt, yes, when the defense talked about him going into the ministry all I could think was, here comes another pedophile priest. They should have chosen a different profession for him to aspire to, like head of the Humane Society.
Bingo, @midwestdad3. I thought the same thing - it could have been a sweet teen love story, so why didn’t he just ask her out and quit playing games. Surely “real” dating exists at SPS? I wonder if the answer is that he’d rather just take what he thinks he can get instead of being a gentleman and seeking to get to know her, which is a personal failing and – not to absolve him of responsibility – shows that the St. Paul’s culture needs some work. I know there are educational/sex-ed/religiously liberal materials out there that are suitable for an Episcopal boarding school because my Episcopal church uses them with the youth in our parish. Sounds like the board of the school needs to do some housecleaning, starting with the rector.
I apologize to any Wall St. traders/spouses of traders for foisting the likes of the defendant into their ranks.
Totally think he glombed onto the minister thing as an admissions strategy. In the Princeton alumni magazine within the past couple of years there was a piece on how few Princeton graduates from the past ~30 years have gone into the ministry (in all of the various faith traditions). IIRC, up until 40 years ago going to divinity school was as popular as law or business school. So yes, he could have been banking on that idea setting him apart from the rest of the applicant pack.
And someone mentioned him becoming a lawyer … that thought occurred to me a few days ago. I’ve already been thinking about the ruckus that will hopefully occur when he applies for certification of fitness to sit for the bar exam.
@GnocchiB PLEASE don’t foist him into the legal profession. That’s all we need [-X
Hunt, FTW.
@MidwestDad3, I’m an (inactive) one too!! I vote that the televangelist category should take him. He’s not afraid to ask for money…
Edit … not to get political but I wonder if he has a place in the so-called Republican war on women? Donald Trump might be able to employ him in some capacity.
Maybe he and Josh Duggar could do a reality show.
^^^ Now you’re talking!
He underwent sexual assault training. The age gap is too large. He would have (should have) faced severe criticism from faculty.
I believe him.
I believe what he told his four friends. I believe what he wrote (and deleted) on Facebook.
I believe he possessed the key to the machine room (which should be an expellable offense.) I believe he persuaded a freshman boy–whom he held authority over as a prefect–to persuade his target to agree to meet.
I believe him when he wrote he used “every trick in the book.”
I believe he chose to pursue the target despite the training in sexual assault prevention he received as a prefect.
I believe he’s a risk taker, accustomed to lying to adults and getting away with it.
I believe her too. Her actions in seeking out Plan B medication from the nurse make sense only if penetration had occurred. As the statue of limitations for rape runs for years, she reported the rape quickly.
What I don’t believe? I don’t believe he stopped, “because it wouldn’t be good for me.” Really? In which case, why claim to your friends that you had b*ned her?
What I don’t believe? That I should trust him on his moment of “divine inspiration,” when he has proven himself untrustworthy in so many other instances.
Jury is now out.
This kid tells half truths about everything. He said his father was a “landscaper.” I have no doubt that he is. However, he also is a copy editor and proofreader and plays in at least 3 professional bands. None of this is relevant as to whether his son committed a crime. It’s just emblemtic of the whole “spin” defense counsel has put on this.
Unless there is another Cannon Labrie who has worked for at least 2 publishing firms based in Vermont, books he worked on from 2000-on include at least the following:
Compost, Vermicompost and Compost Tea: Feeding the Soil on the Organic Farm ;Old Southern Apples: A Comprehensive History and Description of Varieties …By Creighton Lee Calhoun; Exposed: The Toxic Chemistry of Everyday Products and…;Thinking in Systems: A Primer By Donella H. Meadows, Diana Wright;Altered Pasts: Counterfactuals in HistoryBy Richard J. Evans;The Progressive’s Guide to Raising Hell: How to Win Grassroots Campaigns … By Jamie Court; Edible Forest Gardens, Volume II: Ecological Design And Practice for …
By Dave Jacke, Eric Toensmeie:Poisoned for Profit: How Toxins are Making Our Children Chronically Ill
By Philip Shabecoff, Alice Shabecoff;Organic Dairy Production By Sarah Flack; Destiny in the Palm of Your Hand: Creating Your Future Through Vedic Palmistry By Ghanshyam Singh Birla; Adobe Homes for All Climates: Simple, Affordable, and Earthquake-Resistant …By Lisa Schroder, Vince Ogletree; Terra Madre By Carlo Petrini; Growing Healthy Vegetable Crops: Working with Nature to Control Diseases and . By Brian Caldwell; Mind, Life and Universe: Conversations with Great Scientists of Our Time edited by Lynn Margulis, Eduardo Punset; Small-Scale Grain Raising: An Organic Guide to Growing, Processing, and …By Gene Logsdon;Heroes for All Time: Connecticut Civil War Soldiers Tell Their Stories By Dione Longley, Buck Zaide; Passive Solar Architecture: Heating, Cooling, Ventilation, Daylighting and …By David Bainbridge, Ken Haggard;The Rammed Earth House By David Easton; Sustainable Food: How to Buy Right and Spend Less By Elise McDonough; A Sanctuary of Trees: Beechnuts, Birdsongs, Baseball Bats, and Benedictions By Gene Logsdon; When Disaster Strikes: A Comprehensive Guide for Emergency Planning and …
By Matthew Stein; The Genesis and Geometry of the Labyrinth: Architecture, Hidden Language …
By Patrick Conty;The Winter Harvest Handbook: Year Round Vegetable Production Using Deep …
By Eliot Coleman; Occupy World Street: A Global Roadmap for Radical Economic and Political Reform
By Ross Jackson; Alone and Invisible No More: How Grassroots Community Action and 21st …
By Allan S. Teel; Crop Rotation and Cover Cropping: Soil Resiliency and Health on the Organic Farm
By Seth Kroeck; Inquiries into the Nature of Slow Money: Investing as if Food, Farms, and …
By Woody Tasch;The Looting of America: How Wall Street’s Game of Fantasy Finance Destroyed …
By Les Leopold;The Natural Building Companion: A Comprehensive Guide to Integrative Design …
By Jacob Deva Racusin, Ace McArleton; Handbook: Community Solutions to a Global Crisis
By Greg Pahl;Masonry Heaters: Designing, Building, and Living with a Piece of the Sun
By Ken Matesz; The Universal Kabbalah By Leonora Leet
He’s also a professional musician. He plays with a group called Jeanne and the High Tops. (Listen here.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cibgx_868yk ) which has been playing together and performing locally for 20 years.He’s in another group called Yankee Chank, which specializes in Cajun music and has been playing together since 1996. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Yankee-Chank/204261482936237 and the third group is Planet Zydeco which played a gig this past Sunday. https://www.facebook.com/PlanetZydeco
As I said, it’s irrelevant, but the description of this guy’s occupation as “landscaper” by his son is just another indication of how far this kid stretches the truth.
ETA Sorry didn’t know I couldn’t link to facebook but just do a facebook search and you’ll find them. It’s the same guy as in the videos of the trial.
@Periwinkle I agree with you that a 15/18 age gap is large. But I don’t think it is always inappropriate. I know of a freshman/senior relationship that lasted for a year. Both were in same sport, different high schools. Girl was mature for her age. Boy was considerate. But, yes, it wouldn’t necessarily work for everyone.
Did you miss the part where when the list was drawn up, Labrie had a girlfriend?
“It’s just emblematic of the whole ‘spin’ defense counsel has put on this.”
@jonri I do know and have worked with many copy editors. It pays zilch. Still, the prosecutor could have brought this out in cross-examination as evidence of defendant’s propensity to exaggerate (though that would have its downside, too, since defense counsel was contending he exaggerated his encounter with the victim).
Cases are as much about strategy as facts, and both sides spin. For example, the prosecution led people to believe that “senior salute” was wide-spread at SPS. But I didn’t see anything in the evidence that supported that.
^Saw that. Wonder how special that girl is feeling right now, knowing that her bf at the time was talking about, in addition to all the rest that came out during the trial…yuck.
^^No, didn’t miss it. I doubt that he had a girlfriend for the entire year. Didn’t he date the victim’s sister “for like a week?” Or maybe that was a previous year. I’m not sure.
@MidwestDad3, different high schools, not boarding schools, then? Because the schools my kids attended were very vigilant about such age gaps. The schools I know take the statutory rape question very seriously. They have to, both to protect their students, and to comply with the laws. They do not want to be charged with endangering minors.
I don’t suppose the jury includes many people with any boarding school experience. It’s a different experience than the norm. St. Paul’s is 100% boarding. It makes a difference. In such an isolated campus, there’s nothing to do but gossip about each other. If he had approached her publicly, the faculty would have been asking questions.
@MidwestDad3 It’s not about the $. It’s about the education and about trying to make a local jury think he’s more blue collar than he is.
And the fact that Labrie called the accuser a “princess” doesn’t mean he thought she was nice where I live. And since SPS has a lot of kids from NYC, I suspect it wasn’t a compliment. Probably sailed over the prosecutor’s head.
For those of you with a legal background, why would the judge rule that prior sexual history could not be discussed during the trial?
http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/17984714-95/as-plea-deadline-arrives-defense-says-st-pauls-rape-suspect-headed-for-trial
“One witness is a 16-year-old girl who has said Labrie was “sexually aggressive” toward her on a date, according to a filing from prosecutors.”
I wondered that, too.
@doschicos Because a person shouldn’t be judged by how many boys or how many girls he has slept with. It’s not relevant to the facts at hand. The potential prejudicial effect of the testimony outweighs its probative value.