Presidential Race

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He changed his mind??? How does one go from calling for a “final reckoning” in February 2002 to:

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<p>to … ooops, I changed my mind? Sorry, if he is going to claim a road to Damascus conversion, he at least owes us the details.</p>

<p>WASHINGTON (CNN) – Vice President Dick Cheney on Wednesday dismissed as “hogwash” the suggestion that blunders may have hurt the administration’s credibility on Iraq.</p>

<p>In an interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, conducted a day after Bush delivered his State of the Union address, Cheney was asked to respond to some Republicans in Congress who “are now seriously questioning your credibility, because of the blunders and the failures.”</p>

<p>To that, Cheney answered, “Wolf, Wolf, I simply don’t accept the premise of your question. I just think it’s hogwash.” </p>

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<p>I think he cried “Wolf” once too often, and I doubt that he’s qualified to wash hogs, though they’re still serving pork three meals a day in the Green Zone.</p>

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<p>“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”</p>

<p>Yup, they were so secret, Saddam Hussein couldn’t find 'em either. </p>

<p>(But he’s now amassing new ones. ;))</p>

<p>Stay the course.</p>

<p>It’s shaping up to be an interest presidential race. I wouldn’t mind seeing the election come down to Obama and Giuliani. Obama, because he seems so unusually intelligent and decent–the latter, in particular, being an attribute sorely lacking in modern politics. Giuliani was a slimeball husband, but a mayor who actually got some things done, including dramatically reducing New York’s horrific crime rate. He’s socially liberal enough to suit me and displayed wonderful leadership skills on 9/11. … McCain used to have appeal as a man of integrity and conviction, despite views somewhat more conservative than mine, but that feeling is long gone. His new-found love affair with the religious right and the Bush administration (which smeared him unforgivably a few years back) makes him look like a coldly calculating political creature. … Ditto Hillary Clinton, whose support for Bush’s war is sickening. Plus, she’s unelectable. … John Edwards… I kind of like the guy, though I really got tired of his “Two Americas” message last time around. As with Obama, I think he’s a smart, decent guy.</p>

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<p>and buy a mirror!</p>

<p>Interesting article about Giuliani (in a “right-wing” journal so most of you probably missed it):</p>

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<p><a href=“http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_1_rudy_giuliani.html[/url]”>http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_1_rudy_giuliani.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>“…dependent upon whether or not he has the ‘skill set’ to get past social and religious conservatives…”</p>

<p>Giuliani is a conservative in some ways, and definitely not so conservative in others. I think that’s what might make his appeal fairly broad.</p>

<p>Yup. Conservative enough to conduct a highly publicized affair at taxpayer expense in a taxpayer-paid-for residence, with his 8-year-old living under the same roof, and so rank that a judge barred him from seeing his own kid in the company of his new squeeze. Good judge of character, too — remember Bernie Kerik?</p>

<p>Little bit of new hair should take care of that.</p>

<p>Quibbles.
Our choices are not that great. :)</p>

<p>Little bit of hair can take care of that, too. :wink: (You know, being 45 years old and managing not to have screwed up (I won’t pun) royally, other than attending that Madrasseh in Indonesia after having reached maturity, makes ObamaDanna look more attractive by the minute.)</p>

<p>“Conservative enough to conduct a highly publicized affair at taxpayer expense in a taxpayer-paid-for residence, with his 8-year-old living under the same roof, and so rank that a judge barred him from seeing his own kid in the company of his new squeeze.”</p>

<p>where is Bill…we need him more than ever.</p>

<p>Fundingfather, he doesn’t owe us the details. He wasn’t in power.</p>

<p>I’m certain that those who oppose Bill Clinton because of his indiscretions are going to oppose Guiliani, and Gingrich also.</p>

<p>Compared with Rudy and Newt’s, Bill’s hardly rank as “indiscretions”. But mass child murder, that’s another thing.</p>

<p>"Compared with Rudy and Newt’s, Bill’s hardly rank as “indiscretions”</p>

<p>I am looking forward to listening to those people who trashed Clinton embrace Rudy and Newt.</p>

<p>A question regarding Obama: Since he admits that at one time he was a Muslim but now claims to be a Christian, does that mean that he is subject to the death sentence for apostasy under Sharia law?</p>

<p>No hair for me. I thought the Clinton episode was absurd and ultimately damaging to the country. I could care less how much public officials screw up their private lives-- it’s their own business. </p>

<p>Once he was outed, though, I think he could have exhibited a tad more shame. That’s what revealed his “depravity” so to speak: the man has no shame (the ultimate narcissist).</p>

<p>Maybe I’ll vote for Obama in ten years–after I find out if he’s accomplished anything during that time (talk is cheap).</p>

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<p>When Newt or Rudy perjure themselves and obstruct justice, then there would be a contradiction. Until then the only contradiction that I see are from those who say that what one does in private life has no bearing on one’s ability to govern.</p>

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If he thinks that he wants to run for President, he certainly would owe us the details.</p>

<p>Give me a break. Sex is none of the government’s business. And you call yourself a Republican. You should be ashamed. </p>

<p>What the Republican party has become is disgusting.</p>

<p>I agree that sex is none of the government’s business - but bring that up with mini who can’t help but bring the topic up as a means to disqualify Newt and Rudy.</p>

<p>It was none of the government’s business when it came to Clinton. You don’t have to bring anybody else up. It was none of the government’s business.</p>

<p>He should have told the lawyers to go to hell.</p>