Prestige of US schools among Chinese citizens

<p>Hey I'm a US citizen who dreams of one day moving to China or South East Asia. Ive heard that some colleges, like ucla and michigan are much more prestigeous in asia than they are in the US. Meanwhile, liberal arts schools have 0 prestige regardless of if its williams or podunk. Is this true? what school are most prestigious to Chinese employers?</p>

<p>rank the following schools please:UVA, michigan, UCLA, UCB, Cornell, UNC, ND, northwestern. feel free to throw mention any other schools out there that would wow a Chinese employer, those are just the schools that im currently most interested in. </p>

<p>Also are non-technical degree considered worthless in china? ive heard this is true</p>

<p>There are a lot of Chinese international students in the engineering program at Cornell. This might indicate that the Chinese think highly of Cornell.</p>

<p>Here is 10 schoools recognized by the Asian Correspondent
The</a> top ten international Universities in the US | Asian Correspondent</p>

<p>Top 5 honorable mention ( in case you prefer not to go to link):
Columbia University
University of Iowa
New York University
University of Southern California
University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign
Cornell University</p>

<p>Uhh no it's more like:</p>

<p>Harvard
MIT
UC Berkeley.</p>

<p>^</p>

<p>I agree that those are also great schools though I did a honorable mention of the top schools off the Asian Correspondent. So as Harvard, MIT, and Berkeley, I'm sure those list of five schools are also known in Asia ( a large and vast continent).</p>

<p>Of the OP's 7 universities, Cal is the most prestigious in East Asia, followed by Cornell, Michigan and UCLA in no particular order. The remaining three are not as well known in East Asia.</p>

<p>That Asian Correspondent article doesn't provide any methodology and is therefore highly suspect.</p>

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Of the OP's 7 universities, Cal is the most prestigious in East Asia, followed by Cornell, Michigan and UCLA in no particular order. The remaining three are not as well known in East Asia.

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agree with this.</p>

<p>nonono.
it depends on how knowledgeable your employer is. there are plenty of expats/Chinese people with American educations that may hire you, and if you're lucky enough to run into them, they will be as knowledgeable as any American employer.
On the other hand, the regular Chinese employers will have very limited knowledge of US colleges, just like your knowledge (most likely) being very limited for Chinese unis.</p>

<p>The reason that UCLA, UCB, or Michigan are extremely expected is because there is a huge Asian population in all of those schools, and when they go back to Asia, they advertise their Alma Maters, and these schools have become very well known.</p>

<p>Therefore, IMO, normally the most respected schools are:
1. ANY of the Ivies (for Brown or Dartmouth you might have to explain "it's an Ivy"), Stanford, MIT, UCB, CalTech etc.
2. Michigan, UCLA, NYU
3. USC, Chicago</p>

<p>However, that's just the first impression that people will get. Because these employers' knowledge is so limited, what you basically have to do is to pull out the US News Rankings (or whatever ranking that puts your uni. higher on the list), and show them. Usually the Top 25 (or even Top 50) will be recognized and respected.</p>

<p>^this is all based on my personal opinion and what little experience I have. Just trying to help, please take it with a grain of salt.</p>

<p>^^ The OP only asked to rank UVA, michigan, UCLA, UCB, Cornell, UNC, ND, northwestern. But if you want to inlcude all schools, I'd rank the US schools' Chinese Reputation like this:</p>

<p>Harvard
UC Berkeley
MIT
CalTech
Stanford
Yale
Princeton
Columbia
Johns Hopkins
Michigan
Cornell
UPenn
UCLA
Chicago
Northwestern</p>

<p>Note that all these schools have outstanding graduate schools. That is how their reputations in China are established because most of the early Chinese students who studied in US and returned back to China were graduate students. The general public learned the names of these schools through these early students.</p>

<p>Brown and Dartmouth are not well known in China, but their association with the Ivy League helps them.</p>

<p>Hi I am a Chinese high school student and going to America for college this fall. </p>

<p>For us Chinese, a technical degree is much more important than some nontechnical degrees like history ... In China, they employers, as u said, value the prestige of the schools very much. </p>

<p>I'd say, UVA, michigan, UCLA, UCB, Cornell, UNC, ND, northwestern are all prestigious in Chinese views. Are you ethnically a Chinese? </p>

<p>Well, since you are an American, I think holding a technical degree is not that important because you have something that most Chinese employees do not have. You are with many special skills, like English and the understanding of both cultures. So, I don't think a technical degree would matter that much to us Chinese college graduates. </p>

<p>okay, just look at the USNEWS World report college rankings and choose one of the top 25 schools to go if you can, and even the average Chinese college students would know that.</p>

<p>I am Chinese, from Peking U and at UMich currently, So I think I know the prestige of American universities IN China better than most of ppl on CC. Here is the list:</p>

<p>Tier 1:
Harvard -- in its own league</p>

<p>Tier 2:
Yale (maybe inter-change with Caltech), Stanford, MIT, UCB</p>

<p>Those are the top 5, without doubt.</p>

<p>Tier 3:
Columbia, Princeton, Cornell, Chicago, Upenn (not only because of Wharton), Caltech (outside Science & engineering, only few ppl know it), Duke</p>

<p>Tier 4:
UMich/UVA/UCLA/UWisc/UT Austin </p>

<p>except UCB, public universities are not very highly regarded compared with top private ones. Brown, Dartmouth and all LACs are close to unknown, unless you plan to do undergraduate in US.</p>

<p>Why am I not seeing UCSD in any of these posts?</p>

<p>With many top 10 departments and a large asian student population (50% of undergraduates are Asian), you would think that it would be up there.</p>

<p>Why would you think that? What assumptions are you making? By your logic UC Irvine should be on the list. It's not merely about population % of students.</p>

<p>^^ JohnsAdams: UCSD is up and coming, but most of the schools's reputations in China are established through more than 100 years of Sino-US students exchanges.</p>

<p>vociferous, take some time to read my post again and tell us where I said that it is all about population % of Asian students...</p>

<p>my first comment was about the many top 10 departments for UCSD.</p>

<p>Professor, yes what you are saying sounds reasonable</p>

<p>Familiarity =/= Prestige.
For example, USC and NYU are also very well-known, but we usually do not think they are excellent, because it is quite easy to get into those two, and the low admission standard really hurts their reputations.
Actually, I have included ALL universities commonly and highly regarded in China.
Degrees, from tier 1, 2 and 3, are good enough to impress ppl in China.</p>

<p>USC is no longer easy to get into these days</p>

<p>seta, my guess is that you meant "familiarity" instead of "Similarity" above.</p>