<p>When students become gladly accepted to Ivy league schools, doesn’t that really imply that those applicants will merely have an incredible overtension of competition? With all the top ranked students in one institution, ones favored graduate school may disperse out of reality. However, a state university college is usually less competitive than whats mentioned, thus a greater chance of acceptance toward their yearning graduate school. Besides pointless prestige, why is an ''Ivy League" school overly rated? After all, itsn’t graduate school exceeding more valued than undergraduate? </p>
<p>Please correct me if I am wrong, I would like to read your thoughts.</p>
<p>I think it depends on the fallout. If most students that enter a public U’s program wash out, then no… I don’t think it’s relatively non-competitive to selective schools. It’s just giving everyone a shot, and letting the chips fall. Competition is tough in some of the public university programs, others, maybe not so much. If it was such a problem, then no one who went to non-Ivy or non- top 20 schools would become doctors or lawyers or CEO’s.</p>
<p>It’s quite possible that folks that graduate from Ivies with a 2.5 gpa would likely have done much better at less competitive school. And it’s also a bit unfair that someone with a 3.2 from Podunk State College might slide into a grad program ahead of the 2.5 Ivy grad (seems like most grad schools give a 3.0 as a minimum gpa).</p>
<p>BUT…there are ways for the low-gpa Ivy grad to go to grad school. He/she can try to enroll in a part-time or night school grad program (much less competitive admissions). He/she can go to another (easier) undergrad school for a semester or 2 (perhaps even getting a second bachelor’s degree) and get a gaudy gpa. I think grad schools understand that fully half of Ivy grads will graduate in the bottom half of their classes, and that some of these students could still be extremely capable; they just need them to bolster their gpa a bit so they can accept them.</p>
<p>As for the value of that prestige…it’s usually only one’s undergrad school that is considered your “alma mater” and only the undergrad school that would brand someone as a “_______________ man” (Harvard man, Georgetown man, etc.). That’s because your undergad school tends to stamp its imprint on the way you think, dress, talk, walk, and eat much more than any grad school might. The undergrad schools get you when you are just starting to gel as a person. By the time you hit grad school, your character is much more ingrained.</p>
<p>The undergrad schools get you when you are just starting to gel as a person. By the time you hit grad school, your character is much more ingrained.</p>
<p>;)</p>
<p>of course some kids have defined personalities in the womb.
Life just smooths the edges a little</p>
<p>This thread title makes me laugh because when I hear prestige I now can only thing about the last part of a magic trick. Hmmm. Maybe it is accurate.</p>
<p>Don’t assume that state universities or state colleges have no competitive students. Many highly competitive students who have multiple acceptances at Ivys, eventually matriculate at state universities or state colleges because they are granted full scholarships for 4 years. Even for those who pay for part of their education at state schools, the total cost is far far lower than paying for Ivys.</p>
<p>Also do not assume that all top tier schools make their students slog for their grades. Some Ivys are well known for grade inflation.</p>