<p><a href=“http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/papers/1287.pdf[/url]”>http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/papers/1287.pdf</a></p>
<p>Apparantly, Princeton chooses to admit people who fall just under the threshold for admission into Harvard, Stanford, Yale and MIT in order to ensure higher matriculation rates. This increases the APPARENT selectivity of Princeton but lowers its REAL selectivity. Check that article out.</p>
<p>The fact that people seek to discredit the reputation of Princeton assures me that Princeton is just as selective, and often a better college, than the ones you’ve listed.</p>
<p>in other words, the article is too long to read.</p>
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<p>Read this one then. Only 8 percent of the people who do not enroll at Stanford choose to go to Princeton. On the other hand, 28 percent choose Harvard, 20% choose Yale, and 13% choose MIT.</p>
<p>That also coincides with the ranking of colleges based on the preferences of top students. </p>
<p>1 Harvard 2800
2 Yale 2738
3 Stanford 2694
4 Cal Tech 2632
5 MIT 2624
6 Princeton 2608
7 Brown 2433
8 Columbia 2392
9 Amherst 2363
10 Dartmouth 2357
11 Wellesley 2346
12 U Penn 2325
13 U Notre Dame 2279
14 Swarthmore 2270
15 Cornell 2236
16 Georgetown 2218
17 Rice 2214
18 Williams 2213
19 Duke 2209
20 U Virginia 2197
21 Northwestern 2136
22 Pomona 2132
23 Berkeley 2115
24 Georgia Tech 2115</p>
<p>rooster, if your pointing all this out to prove some point you’re being a real baby.</p>
<p>Thats good for you. The student preference list is really irrelevant in regards to how good an institution is. Would anyone really honestly contend that Brown is better than Columbia and significantly better than Cornell or Duke? Choose what schools is better for you, not the one that others prefer. </p>
<p>Also, “Only 8 percent of the people who do not enroll at Stanford choose to go to Princeton. On the other hand, 28 percent choose Harvard, 20% choose Yale, and 13% choose MIT.” How does that prove that Princeton is less selective than Stanford. Last US News Selectivity ranking placed Stanford 6th, behind Yale, Princeton, MIT, Harvard and Caltech. Looking at those selectivity rankings, it could just as easily be interpreted that only 8% went to Princeton because not that many got in. Hell, the 25/75 percentiles of incoming SAT scores are nearly identical at Stanford and Princeton (with Stanford having a lower 25th). To say that Princeton is in any way significantly less selective than Harvard, Yale, Stanford or MIT is really quite stupid.</p>
<p>This study has popped up now and then and I’m still inclined to believe that is quite flawed. First off, its authored by a professor at Penn and a professor at Harvard, bias anyone? Secondly, those little curves are just plain ■■■■■■■■, they don’t take into account the fact that these colleges have to admit differently. Princeton has to accept a larger proportion of its class as athletic recruits namely because it is a smaller school. Athletic recruits would understandably on average have lower SAT scores, hence there would be a slight bulge at a lower SAT band where it appears that there is a higher probability of getting accepted.</p>
<p>I really dont understand the logic behind any of this</p>
<p>Excellent post, pimpdaddy.</p>
<p>ur mom is less selective than hys.</p>
<p>hth</p>
<p>Stats are just stats.
No one here cares. The last thing I worry about is that my school isn’t as selective as HYS when it’s already at the top of the top.</p>
<p>Yeah, bottom-line, nobody would ever look down on you for going to Princeton on the grounds that it wasn’t selective enough. So this is all pretty meaningless.</p>
<p>rooster got pwn3d.</p>
<p>Rooster Wrote:
“Read this one then. Only 8 percent of the people who do not enroll at Stanford choose to go to Princeton. On the other hand, 28 percent choose Harvard, 20% choose Yale, and 13% choose MIT.”</p>
<p>Those numbers don’t mean anything, and I’m not sure what you’re point is here. Are you somehow trying to degrade princeton with those “impressive” statistics of yours?
The article DOES NOT say that “of everyone who got into every single schoold out of HYPSM, only 8 percent chose to go to Pton.” In fact, you dont know how many people who got into Both S and P, and chose to go to P. Maybe all S admits who also got into P chose P.
Perhaps Stanford and Princeton are just completely different schools, so applicants who are fit for stanford are less likely to apply to princeton, and are also less likely to choose to go to Princeton if admitted. Maybe Stanford and Harvard are similar in undergraduate experiences, which is why such a high number of accepted Stanford students choose to go to Harvard. </p>
<p>I apologize if I sound excessively rude, but it really angers me when people constantly look for new ways to bash Princeton (the best school ever! :D).</p>
<p>Princeton is smaller than Stanford, Yale, and MIT, so it makes sense that less people choose Pton. Also, Stanford and Harvard have a lot of premed applicants, which may explain the overlap.</p>
<p>Look, as others have said, rooster, I dont care what the heck the rankings are. If you care about them, well then I say that you need to get a life. And if you think that they make any difference to how good or desirable a school is, well, then you also need to get some brains. I have made the decision that Princeton is the best school in the world for me, and no “selectivity” ranking or study out there can change my mind. I don’t want Princeton for the prestige, or how selective it is, but because it best fits me. So you can take those statistics and shove it up your *** for all we care on this board.</p>
<p>I’m sorry for my rudeness, but its people like you who go about trying to one-up other schools that really annoy me. Lets just say that all these top schools are great in their own respective fields and ways, and leave it at that.</p>
<p>rooster already goes to stanford and is just bored probably</p>
<p>I don’t understand all the fuss. I like Princeton…I also like Harvard, Yale, and Stanford. It’s an interesting study that could mean something or nothing at all. Let’s just give rooster the benefit of the doubt and say it was posted simply because it related to Princeton. He certainly didn’t sound like he was dissing Princeton personally.</p>
<p>Or maybe I’m just lacking that fervent Tiger spirit :)</p>
<p>Yeah, I really don’t think rooster was trying to offend anyone. Give him a break guys. =P</p>
<p>Still, for such a “smart” kid, he sure does lack foresight.</p>
<p><em>cough</em>letitgo<em>cough</em></p>
<p>=/</p>
<p>Yeah, I guess I was a little harsh. I dont think rooster had anything against Pton either. Its just I’m always seeing ■■■■■■ harping these kind of stats to prove that their college of choice is better than another, and I’m getting kinda sick of it all.</p>