@daunt18 : I was mainly being silly, but Stanford has a suburban sheltered feel to me the few times I’ve been there. Berkeley is definitely a grittier place. I’ll ask D about Princeton. I was not on that trip. I actually thought the architecture & area would appeal to her, and I would have been happy to have her there since my brother lives just outside Philadelphia and worked in Trenton at the time. One year for Thanksgiving, she went home with friend who lived a few blocks away from Princeton, and admitted afterward that she might have been hasty in rejecting it. Not that she ever regretted going to Dartmouth.