Private AND Public in one University

<p>Heard on NPR today that Cornell is BOTH public and private.</p>

<p>Are there many universities with that status? Is that by college and how does that really affect funds and admissions if at all?</p>

<p>Alfred University</p>

<p>At least one college at Cornell is part of the SUNY system; Cornell is New York's land grant college. It has agriculture, a vet school, and home ec and I am not sure what else is included. According to the tour guide, the only students it affects (price-wise) are students in state. It sounded to me like any out of state student would not pay OOS SUNY tuition, but Cornell private school tuition.</p>

<p>I do not know of other colleges like this although I wondered if the Penn vet school fell under this category as well. Anybody know?</p>

<p>I think that Cornell's status as the land grant university of New York is confusing to many people.</p>

<p>Cornell has several different colleges under the university umbrella -- both endowed colleges and contract colleges. The contract colleges -- CALS, ILR, and HE as well as the vet school -- receive some funding from New York State and charge different tuition rates, including an in-state rate and out of state rate -- than the endowed colleges --CAS, SHA, and Engineering.</p>

<p>However, the diplomas are issued by Cornell University (not some non existent entity called Cornell SUNY) and students in contract colleges can take courses in endowed colleges and vice versa. There may be a limit on courses taken outside of one's own college, but all those courses are available to all students.</p>

<p>I'm not aware of admissions preference for instate students in the contract colleges, but it would not surprise me to see a certain number of slots reserved for in-state applicants. After all, the state of NY has a vested interest in educating the next generation of agricultural scientists etc.</p>

<p>I think Wikipedia has a pretty good article on Cornell where these questions would be addressed.</p>

<p>Some Pennsylvania schools are technically 'state-related' rather than being public in the usual sense of the word: </p>

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Universities in the System are considered public universities, but are under independent control rather than that of the state. Because of their independent status, universities in the Commonwealth System tend to have higher tuition costs compared to the Pennsylvania State System of Higher Education. They are exempt from Pennsylvania's Open Records law except for a few minor provisions. Before the creation of the "state-related" legal status in the early 1970s, Pennsylvania State University was public and Lincoln University, Temple University and University of Pittsburgh were private.

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<p>Commonwealth</a> System of Higher Education</p>

<p>care to share why they were talking about Cornell on NPR today?</p>

<p>there's not supposed to be any admissions preference for in-state students at Cornell, so if there is one it's shadowy, and we can only speculate.</p>

<p>Syracuse has the forestry school for NYS and only that segment is public.</p>

<p>SUNY ESF is not affiliated with Syracuse, other than sharing the campus.</p>

<p>Syracuse has a similar environmental science/forestry program, I think.</p>

<p>Am I right in thinking that Miami University in Ohio is public?</p>

<p>Yes, Miami is Public. It tries to compete with the privates.</p>

<p>My understanding is that currently, there is no admissions preference for New York state residents at the undergraduate contract colleges at Cornell, but there was a time in the past when there was a preference of this sort. </p>

<p>The situation with the veterinary school is different. All veterinary schools give preference to applicants from their region.</p>

<p>For out-of-state undergraduate applicants to Cornell, the difference between endowed and contract colleges is almost meaningless. The out-of-state tuition rate at the contract colleges is very close to the rate at the endowed colleges. It's only for New York residents that the contract colleges are a bargain.</p>