<p>Sat score: 1530
GPA: 3.63
sat bio: 600
sat math 1 and math 2: both 500</p>
<p>why i got accepted:
I had assloads of extracurriculars
I submitted a picture of me shaking hands with obama at a volunteer job i had and connected it with my community service achievements</p>
<p>proves that sat scores and gpa arent everything and that EC is really important</p>
<p>Being a URM doesn’t hurt either ^.^ .</p>
<p>1530/2400?</p>
<p>No offense, but I can guarantee that having “an assload of extracurriculars” was not the only reason</p>
<p>Dear mohamed123 : Let’s suppose for a moment that you are sincere and not ■■■■■■■■ here on the BC college confidential board. Let’s suppose that your admission was to the Boston College main campus as opposed to the Woods School. Let’s suppose that you are accurately reporting a 1530 three-way SAT score and SAT II math scores (both Math I and Math II at 500).</p>
<p>If all of this is true, you are about to have your academic world rocked and you can probably “kiss your ass”-load of extra-curriculars “good-bye”. </p>
<p>I hope you find complete success in your academic pursuits, but pictures with the President are not going to help you during October 2011 (Week #5) when your first Calculus exams are dropped on your desk.</p>
<p>Look, we celebrate everyone’s admission; however, it is striking that your 1530 is acceptable when we are watching a steady diet of more qualified academic candidates being rejected or deferred.</p>
<p>Mohamed123:
A few months back you posted:</p>
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<p>Something is inconsistent between that post in November and your current posts.</p>
<p>Yes. I find that hard to believe as well. Boston College, very fundamentally, is an academic, not social, institution.</p>
<p>yes! i do have a “high gpa” according to the school i got to and i am ranked 7/175 so i am in the top 10 of my class. I dont find it hard to believe because sat scores arent everything</p>
<p>and @scott</p>
<p>yes you might have a higher sat score ranging from 2000-2100 but i have a 1500. SAT does not measure intelligence i assure u because i got 5’s on most of my ap exams. I cannot afford expensive SAT tutoring nor is my school a “top school”… i am in a DC public school with mediocre education (highest SAT score in my school was 1840). In all, i am disadvantage. I can assure u that if i was given the same learning opportunity you were and i was raised in a middle class family like you were, i would not have my 1500. I believe that just because my sat score was low, i should not be judges as stupid or lazy. I believe that i worked hard and will do well in college!</p>
<p>If your education allows you to score 5’s on APs, then scoring a 1800+ on your SAT’s should be no problem. I’m not doubting you but some of your facts just don’t add up. Assuming your teachers are good enough to have students that score 5’s on AP’s, then why does nobody break 1900 on the SAT’s? You don’t need a tutor for the SAT. I know plenty of mediocre students who scored 1800+ on their first attempts w/o tutors.</p>
<p>“proves that sat scores and gpa arent everything and that EC is really important”
Now you are changing it to “SAT score’s aren’t everything”.</p>
<p>The fact that you are distorting your numbers (making your GPA seem low when it isn’t. GPA is relative to whatever school your in) makes your argument somewhat invalid. </p>
<p>But whatever, good luck in BC. Just remember this, although you claim that if you were “given the same learning opportunity” that you would be academically similar to others on these forums, you didn’t get the opportunity. You will be far behind others (in terms of writing technique/mathematical ability) according to your SAT grades. It is ultimately up to you to put in that extra effort.</p>
<p>Before i came to this site and started chatting with strong determined students like you, I thought that my SAT score was above AVARAGE because of the sat scres that went around my school, people with 1200’s and 1400,s. In DC the avarage SAT score is</p>
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<p>I only got 5’s on my AP Exam because of study groups I organized 1 Month before the actual test. Out teachers were behind and we did not learn all of the material well. We met after school every day and weekend to study for the Biology, Chemistry and Physics exam. The AP exam’s cannot be compared in proportion to the SAT because they test different content and are graded differently. Although you say that it is easy to score 1800+, i got the AVERAGE score. Please look outside your school, outside your neighborhood, outside your state and understand that not everyone had what. </p>
<p>and you said “You will be far behind others (in terms of writing technique/mathematical ability) according to your SAT grades.”, yes i may be far behind but im prepared for that. I am very adaptive to my environment and will be aware that I will need to put in extra effort to my learning in BC granting I choose it as my final choice.</p>
<p>Dear mohamed123 : This will be my final post in this thread; hence you can respond in any way you choose to these thoughts. </p>
<p>When I comment on threads about student performance or acceptance criteria, never will I enter into a discussion of socio-economic or racial (URM) status. While one can well frame academic performance in the education environment to which you have been previously exposed, the fact remains that your performance will now be measured against your cohort group at Boston College. The past disadvantages do not and will not matter for future framing of your performance. Put colloquially, “it is a whole new ball game now”.</p>
<p>Using a socio-economic argument that your SAT performance could not exceed ~1500 due to a lack of tutoring, yet, you can organize an AP review group that allows you to score at the mastery level (5) in one month’s time simply causes one to question the veracity of all of your data. At 1500, yes, you are at the national average. Average students do not score a 5 on an AP Exam. Average students do not get into Boston College.</p>
<p>If as you claim, you scored a 5 in Chemistry and Physics, the mathematics skills required in those course far exceed the SAT midpoint. You simply cannot score a 500 on the SAT II in Math I and Math II yet execute at a 5 level on these science exams. If you are scoring 5s on AP Exams, you are being given the same opportunity as others - hence the arguments around socio-economic disadvantages as a baseline for a 1530 three-way score are rendered neutral.</p>
<p>mohamed123, I have seen your posts in other threads on this subject. There is no doubt that the same information is being consistently presented. Speaking frankly, I just do not believe a word of it.</p>
<p>How could you get a 5 in AP Bio but only a 600 on the SAT II? How could you not do well in writing when presumably you can construct a well-written essay? How can you get a 500 in Math I and then get 5s in AP Chem or Physics? It just doesn’t add up.</p>
<p>Neither does your whole argument about not being exposed to the right teaching. If you’re getting a sufficient education where you can bring yourself to a 5 AP level in a month, you’re getting a sufficient education to bring yourself to a decent SAT score in a few months. I’m assuming you didn’t have access to expensive prep for the APs, why not do the same for the SATs? Also, the SAT is primarily an aptitude test, so not everyone studies for it. There are plenty of people, myself included, who studied for the SAT less than you did and received scores well above the average at schools like BC. You’re telling me you’re smart but couldn’t score above the national average? Again, I’m sure a 5 year-old wouldn’t score well, or someone who doesn’t speak English (both indicating some level of teaching is required), but if your teachers have prepared you well enough to be in the range of 5s, this shouldn’t be an issue. And if not, you won’t be sufficiently prepared academically for a school like BC anyway, so why bother?</p>
<p>Look, to be honest, If there was a way i could prove it, i would but in all, i dont care about you opinions on my success.</p>
<p>Congratulations on your acceptances, mohamed123. I hope that your top choice colleges come up with enough financial aid so that you can attend.</p>
<p>Actually this might all add up if he is an URM. Haven’t thought about that till I actually read the second post (silly me).</p>
<p>If you don’t care about anyone’s opinion, the don’t bother wasting our time by posting on these boards.</p>
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But even if you can prove you got in, there’s still no excuse for being “unprepared” for the SAT and getting a 1500.</p>
<p>Mohamed123 I have been waiting to defend you, and wish you well, because I do believe you. But, my problem with your post is that you are leaving out a vital part of your acceptance to Boston College. What you are leaving out is that you have been accepted through the OTE (Options Through Education) program. You do a disservice to the student without the stellar stats and the ones who have them. Boston College should be commended for this program. And you will find out this summer that the students in this program are a close knit bunch. They are like you and very proud to be in OTE. I agree with many of the things you said regarding your high school education. The degree that you will receive from Boston College will not mention how you got in. So just be honest and tell the WHOLE truth. To be honest you will have a leg up on other students coming in for fall term. And for who ever said that you got in because you are a URM is frankly not familiar with the OTE program. Students in this program are every conceivable color of the rainbow, including children of faculty. Congratulations! like you said you are more than a test score. Take this ball and run with it. And if you would like to know about the OTE program feel free to email me privately.</p>
<p>Mother of thriving! OTE student 2014</p>
<p>Thank you soo much. I was awaiting a recognition AND explanation like this! i will research more about this ote program! I was actually selected to programs similar to this one for American University (S.T.E.P program) and for Denison college. I now fully understand what programs like these are made for and how they see the potential i have and give me a chance in success.</p>