<p>I highly doubt the College Board will re-score the test and give him credit for a question that he didn’t have time to fill in entirely. I trust your son’s honesty, but if CB gave him credit, i am sure many students would love to complain that they knew the answer to that last question they tried to bubble and “accidentially omitted.” </p>
<p>It takes less than a second to “finish filling in the bubble.” There is no way the proctor would have reported this as cheating.</p>
<p>aiya, he should have filled in that bubble.</p>
<p>kudos to your son, and you - for some true moral upbringing.</p>
<p>I know I’m going to come off as mean…</p>
<p>Am I the only one who doesn’t think that this has really anything with her son being honest or ethics? I mean what is honest about it? If he really wanted the NM thingy, he should/would have done it! It isn’t like breaking the law or anything!</p>
<p>Cold care fact: He didn’t finish the exam. NO offense.</p>
<p>Your son is an idiot. If after he grows up and abides his life like this, he will fail.</p>
<p>I know you’ll think I’m out to get you, or have a hate, I don’t mean any harm:</p>
<p>I’m still kind of perplexed on why people are saying that this has to do with ethics and honesty…It really doesn’t. It is a test for goodness sake, not like cheating. It isn’t even the real SATs. I think that if your son really wanted to obtain the NM status, he would have realized the time left, and bubbled the last letter in, sort of end of story.</p>
<p>Cold hard fact: He didn’t complete the test.</p>
<p>Sorry…</p>
<p>Sorry if it sounds harsh, but I believe it is the truth.</p>
<p>Cold care fact: He didn’t finish the exam.</p>
<p>Now that I think of it, that’s so true. It was either he take a second or two finish bubbling it in, or just leave the unfilled.
On the other hand, I do feel you–that one question could definitely have cost some points. Again, I wish you and your son for the best, and merry christmas.</p>
<p>haha, aw guys, of course he didnt’ finish the exam. We get that. He gets that. His mum gets that.</p>
<p>glucose, I know you mean this with real, good intentions, but some things you say are odd:
"It is a test for goodness sake, not like cheating. " –> ??
“It isn’t even the real SATs.” –> also ??
“If he really wanted the NM thingy, he should/would have done it!” –> sherlock reincarnate! he didn’t really want the NM thingy, no! who would want the NM thingy! (i.e. please.)</p>
<p>cheating is cheating is cheating. I think perhaps some of you guys are mixed up. “Put your pencils down” MEANS exactly that. Therefore, if you swipe even the tiniest bit of extra time after that is called you are cheating. Don’t get me wrong, I would have cheated too. In fact, i’ve been in that situation where I KNEW the answer for certain as the time was called and damn if I didn’t scribble in that bubble in fast as heck. It’s a tiny, minute infraction most people don’t think twice about, but it’s still an infraction.</p>
<p>You guys are saying just because it’s a little cheating, it’s not cheating. Because you’re a little pregnant, you’re not pregnant. Or as glucose asserts, if it’s a little cheating on a little test (although the OP has stated that the possibility of scholarships were important to her - not important to you perhaps, glucose) it’s not cheating. If it gets him ahead with a little bubble filling after time is called, it’s not cheating. Nonsense.</p>
<p>What puzzles you guys shoudl not be whether or not it is cheating, but to the extreme degree to which the OP’s son took teh rules. To that, I still congratulate him, but if this is representative of how he normally goes about life, simultaneously, I worry for him. Applied math has a point, he will suffer if he continues, but the thing is, the best, most moral, people in life don’t get ahead, because getting ahead is not the best thing about life for most people. </p>
<p>Sum-up: bubbling after time is cheating. Son should have cheated, in my opinion, maybe not in his. Son is a good kid and a good person. Unkind comments not needed to make OP or OP’s son know the above.</p>
<p>If anyone hears the “put down your pencils” call when you have ONE HALF of a question left (or even 2 or three questions left) man up and finish the damn test. it doesnt really matter and its PROBABLY not going to be extremely helpful or detrimental to your score.</p>
<p>yz16, thanks for your post–I appreciated it.
applied math–thank you for telling me that my son is an idiot. I mean that. Reading your rudeness makes me appreciate my son all the more. He is a kind and funny and smart and decent human being. I have told him for years that he will make a wonderful husband and father because of his love, compassion, integrity, faithfulness to his principles, and many other attributes. I have no doubt that he will be a success in life, in the things that truly count.
I’ve been reading and posting here for a couple of years now, and I have both learned and shared much helpful information. Unfortunately, along with the mature and helpful posts, is rudeness, arrogance, mean-spiritedness, and plain old ugliness that I will never understand. Does acting that way just really make you feel better about yourself, or is that just the only way you know how to communicate?</p>
<p>ok…after reading all this…i couldnt help but say…
u know…why dont you all keep your heads clear and remember that any one of these ETS tests, DO NOT MEASURE YOUR INTELLECT ACCURATELY. so therefore. please dont make this a big deal. its a pathetic little test, designed with traps and stuff. its ridiculous from the start. so just let it go. it really doesnt make a difference. if your son is really bright. one little junior psat score isnt gona stop him from accomplishing whatever he wants to in life. it just doesnt matter. sure the scholarship would help. but those things come and go. he’ll do just as well w/o them.</p>
<p>btw. i think he shouldv just filled it in anyway. cuz i think ets tests are all crap. stuff thats not worth bringing your exceedingly high integrity into. i mean…seriously…would he really have not been able to sleep well if he knew that he filled in half a bubble after time was called? even so, learn to do what you gota do. if you decide to not fill it in. then you gota live w/ the consequences of mayb not making the cutoff. period. you cant really blame anyone. </p>
<p>after all. its a stupid little test thats near worthless. i managed to ace mine. but i still think they’re just ridiculous. period.</p>
<p>Attempting to look at the bright side - missing a cutoff due to ethics or errors or whatever, will hopefully make one more organized or careful in the future. I get razed about not speeding at work. A couple of years ago I was driving the speed limit on a 50 mph country road. When I crested a hill, the following tableau spread out before me and my passenger (my sister in law): a motorcyclist had dumped his bike in the opposite lane, and was rolling into mine. A deep ditch was to my right; my sister has bad back. Anyway, I hit the brakes, realized I was still going to hit him, skidded right. He completed his roll into my (stationary) left front tire. Broke a clavicle in the fall, but no damage from me, and I didn’t hurt my sister by dumping in the ditch, which I would have had it been just me. If I had been speeding I would have hit the biker. BTW - it was a brand-new crotch rocket - red - the man’s present to himself on finalizing his divorce. Watch out for mid-life crises. </p>
<p>Finishing a bubble - or not, exceeding the speed limit - or not, usually has very little in the matter of consequences. But every once and a while, you do make the correct moral decision, and are happy for it. I probably would have finished the bubble if I had started it, but I won’t speed knowingly. Life is full of these decisions - if you can make them with a clear conscience I think you will be a happier person.</p>
<p>Well, thank you all for a lively and interesting discussion. I’m going to head back to the parent forum now. I like talking with the older, wiser crowd over there. :)</p>
<p>lol… I’ve been reading this forum awhile too and don’t blame you for going back…</p>
<p>“Well, thank you all for a lively and interesting discussion. I’m going to head back to the parent forum now. I like talking with the older, wiser crowd over there.”</p>
<p>Dolce,</p>
<p>I may be dense, but I’m not sure if this is sarcastic or not. Some of the responses were ill-considered, some weren’t. Dismissing young people’s opinions on the basis of age provides a limited view of the world. Bush is plenty old enough … but wise?</p>
<p>dolce~</p>
<p>Does your son happen to post using your username as well?</p>
<p>yeah ohio_mom i agree. Bush is old…and that’s it.</p>
<p>lol yz16, you probably won’t go into politics.</p>
<p>i still find it crazy that people’s parents go all up-in-arms over stuff like the PSAT. I’m gonna be a finalist (probably) and my mom doesn’t even give a hoot… To be honest, I’m not sure if I’m happy or upset by that. o.0</p>
<p>flavian - damn straight ;).</p>
<p>Boo hoo…</p>
<p>I hate it. Just because my opinion is different than everyone else’s opinions, doesn’t mean that you should be all in to get me. Yes, I added emotion, which may have seemed uncalled for, but it is what I thought. And isn’t that what the point of a forum is, to express what you think? You may ask for help/advise (or whatever), but you may not always get what you want to hear!</p>
<p>I’m sorry if I seemed rigid, but it is what I thought…</p>