Public Health Major 3.93 4.97 gpa 1510 sat

Chance Me / Match Me
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uw gpa: 3.93
w gpa:4.97
19 aps, No DE
low class rank (top 30 percent)

ap csp
ap human geo
ap bio
ap seminar
ap world
ap euro
ap physics
apes
ap lang
ap us history
ap stats
ap calc ab
ap psych
ap research
ap art history
ap calc bc
ap literature
ap economics
ap government
only 2 years of spanish

low rank: top 30 percent of class (sweaty school)

Sat: 1520

Ecs:

research with uni professor 1 pub
research with uni professor 4 conferences
high impact philanthropic club
low impact health club
research intern in uni lab
free research summer program at uni
fundraising for a health policy lobbying campaign
paid growth and content intern at startup
JHU GHLC speaker series
shadowing/hospital volunteering

Honors:
Poster Presentation Award
Deca State, BPA State
Orchestra Award Regional Level
Decathlon Award Regional Level
Collegeboard: small rural town, national school recogntion, ap scholar with distinction

Chance for: UMKC bsmd, Baylor Bsmd, Union college LIM, NSU BS/DO, Upitt bsmd, texas tech bsmd

Emory, Columbia, Brown ED, Cornell, Dartmouth, Duke, Emory, JHU, Rice, TAMU, UT Austin, UNC, UTD, UF, UMich, UVA, Washu, University of Chicago

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What does sweaty school mean?

How many of the 19 APs did you take in class vs. self study?

What is your weighting system - that your weighted is more than 1 point higher than your unweighted?

I won’t chance you on BSMD/DO but you’d get into all those schools without the BSMD.

Are you in Texas? I’d say yes to A&M and UTD.

As for UF, can you calculate your weighted GPA using +.5 for Honors and +1 for AP - so you don’t get credit for the self study.

I think what eliminates you from a lot is the foreign language at only two years.

While I can’t find it on the website, the common data set says 3 years of Foreign Language is required for Brown and four years recommended.

I’m guessing you’ll find similar at the other Ivies, Emory, etc. A UVA requires two but recommends four.

Your list is very - I’m high ranked - but the schools are different.

If you want a BS/MD, why is Brown your ED?

And what about budget/cost? An undergrad on your list and med school can be $800k. Can your family afford that?

Where you go undergrad won’t impact med school admission - so something to think about - maybe adding more Texas schools or schools where your stats would get you a great cost - like Alabama at $22K all in and they have the McCullough Pre Medical Scholars.

Tell me about your UF GPA.

Best of luck.

PS - on the thread you closed your SAT was 1520. Which is it?

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How many hours do you have of volunteering in a hospital?

How many of those APs did you take the class, versus self study and take the test? I have never seen this many AP’s and wonder what admissions will think of this.

If you are applying to BS/MD programs, then why are you also applying to Brown ED? Are you okay with giving up your chances of getting into any BSMD program if you can get accepted to Brown?

I also wonder what a sweaty school is. Based on your unweighted GPA, number of APs, and class rank, it seems that there must be a lot of students at your school with nothing but A’s.

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I have the same questions as others.

Bsmd/bsdo are reaches, but I do agree you should get accepted to at least a few (not familiar with some of them) without the bsmd/do.

Following your list of bsmd/do I see a lot of reaches, with 1-2 acceptances as noted above.

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It’s teen speak for “highly competitive school”, where fellow students are perceived to study a lot and be grade focused.

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Your list is a very reachy one. BS/MD programs are all reaches.

Are you happy with your sure things…which I think are UTD and TAMU? Will you be happy to attend these, and are they affordable for your family?

Remember, should you get accepted to medical school, the costs will be quite high perhaps unless you get accepted to a Texan medical school. @WayOutWestMom can elaborate.

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Hi, that was a mistake with the 1520 (my superscore is 1520 and my highest singular score is 1510), all of the APs were taken in school. 2 in Freshman Year, 4 in Sophmore year, 8 in junior year and 5 in my senior year. Our school only offered 2 years of spanish and we do not have AP Languages. I ED to Brown because its simply my dream school, (My college list is really dependent on my rejection to Brown, a lot of the schools I listed are prospective and I would be genuinely happy with going to UTD (already admitted), Tamu (already admitted) or Baylor (120k merit earned) if Brown ED and the other schools reject me)

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I don’t think you’ll be penalized if your school doesn’t offer more than two years of a foreign language. But it seems so strange that a school with all those APs doesn’t offer more than two years of Spanish.

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It is very strange, but we did have an option to do CBE (credit by exam) till spanish 4. So, technically, I could have met the standard by taking the exams but I was simply too busy with my APs. I think it is also notable to say we had 42 national merit students in our senior class just to give context for its competitiveness

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If you get a Brown acceptance, then you’ll need to withdraw your applications to all the BA/MD/DO programs you have on your list. Are you Ok with giving those up?

Are you/your family prepared to pay OOS rates at the BA/MD/DO programs? UMKC is particularly expensive since they do not offer merit for BA/MD students. You’re also prohibited from applying for a residency status change for the medical school portion of your program. (That means you’ll be paying the OOS rate for med school.)

BA/MD programs tend to discount the value of self-studied AP scores.

Be aware that while NSU’s BA/DO program has a high acceptance rate (almost 30%), the only about 25 students from the 200+ that matriculate into the BA/DO program actually advance to the med school portion of the program.

FInancing for med school has become problematic. Most med students use federal student loans to pay for their medical education; however, the OBBB has severely limited the amount of federal loans a student can receive. Professional students now may only take out $50K/year in student loans and no more than $200,000 over their lifetime. (That includes any federal loans take out during undergrad.) The UT med schools tuition & fees run from the mid to high $20K range so $50K/year is putting you right near the edge of affordability. Baylor Med will cost more. Currently, in state COA is $83K/year. Private and OOS med schools will be in the $100K/year range.

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My parents and I are completely fine with withdrawing other application after an acceptance to Brown, but realistically, it’s highly unlikely that I’ll get in. I’m almost certain that several students from my school with stronger stats also applied Early Decision. As for BS/MD programs, I’m still unsure whether I’d be willing to pay that much, though the idea of a guaranteed, stress-free path to medical school is definitely appealing. My parents also really value the idea of me avoiding the stress of the MCAT and having an assured acceptance to medical school, even if it comes at a higher cost. Our total household income is around $420K, and with significant assets, we likely wouldn’t qualify for any financial aid. Personally, I’d be perfectly happy attending UTD or Texas A&M, but my parents are very focused on prestige and security, which has heavily influenced my current college list.

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If you are anticipating medical school, please be advised that the MCAT is the first on a VERY long (and costly) list of tests you will be required to take and pass to become a doctor. And the tests don’t end there. If avoiding tests is a thing…think about how many tests doctors need to take to get where they are. It seems like it never ends.

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Yea your definitely right, but the MCAT seems to be an obstacle everyone dreads. It would be nice to ease into med school rigor with a BSMD and be able to explore your own passions.

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Then it’s a fine list - but A&M is different than UTD which is different than Baylor which is different than say Emory which is different than Columbia.

So then the question becomes - would you go to Dartmouth full pay over A&M at in-state cost. If it’d be A&M or Baylor at $30K off, why apply to the schools with no merit.

You didn’t mention budget. Does it matter.

I agree with @Franklynn that you won’t be penalized if a class isn’t offered. On the fiipside, how will the school report it in the profile. If they don’t offer a class, I think they’d note it but on the flipside, they have the CBE - which doesn’t sound like a class.

You didn’t report your UF GPA but with a 3.93 and 19 APs, I’m guessing your UF GPA will be at least a 4.5. So if that’s the case, you’ll get in. Again, take your As in Honors and give them a 4.5, B = 3.5, C = 2.5 and for the APs an A = 5, B = 4, C = 3, etc.

But again, UF and T&M are enormous. Dartmouth has 5K undergrads and is double the cost (of UF, more than A&M).

So beyond “name”, what matters to you and how will you pay for med school (or undergrad). Is that covered?

I’m struggling to understand what kind of school where you can have near straight As, take 19 APs and be at the 30th percentile. If you want to look at it that way, you’ll find the bulk of your schools have the bulk of kids in the top 10% of the class. At Dartmouth, 93% are in the top 10% and 99% in the top 25%, as an example. Emory is 80% and 97%.

So that’s what you face.

If you have 40+ NMFs (which seems a lot out of the total), you must have college counseling that is strong. Is this a private school?

But your list is great - because you’ve gotten into schools you say you’d be happy to attend.

Once you achieve that, then the rest of your list can be as you want.

Good luck.

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I hate to say this…but in a Bs/MD program, you won’t have much time to “explore your own passions”.

If you want to do that, just apply for a regular bachelors and explore your passions…then apply to medical school when you are sure that is what you want.

@WayOutWestMom

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I’m not sure that’s the case everywhere. UMKC says no MCAT but Pitt says:

I get it - and in that case, why ED to Brown? You potentially give up that right to not taking the MCAT and maybe an opportunity to be a doctor.

Brown states “Please do not assume that your admission chances are improved by applying under the Early Decision plan. The Board of Admission makes the same decisions under Early Decision that it would under the Regular Decision plan.”

So one could argue applying to Brown ED is giving away all your flexibility. Personally, I’d change to RD if possible.

You might, if you truly want to be a Dr., consider applying to LECOM schools too (a DO assurance) but there are limited spots so from what I understand, the earlier you apply the better. You have big names on it. One parent here has a student at Rhodes, a highly respected LAC, as an example.

Best of luck.

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