<p>Nah, it really isn’t. You only say that because you did better on it. I’m fairly sure I would have done worse on the ACT (which I never took because of the SAT), in which case I would have argued that the SAT is far more representative of intellectual abilities than the ACT (which is true anyways) and is thus more aptly used for college admissions. In reality, neither is better as an objective measurement, primarily because they do assess different things - “IQ” for the SAT versus what you have learned for the ACT.</p>
<p>(As an obvious qualification to this entire discoure, standardized tests are only useful for indicating general intelligence/academic progress - which is predicated on the undeniable correlation between scores and IQ/knowledge - rather than meaningfully differentiating among certain applicants who have scores close to each other.)</p>
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<p>The only problem is that that you can’t avoid having your emotions color your arguments, despite efforts to the contrary. Once you are removed from the fun that is worrying about acceptance to Yale (and especially if you attain such an acceptance) the emotion slips away and replaced with a more stoic perspective on the issue. You’ll notice that in my post history, if you compare my arguments now to my posts in the Stanford SCEA results thread from last year.</p>
<p>^please tell me we are NOT going to go into the SAT-ACT debate -rolls eyes-
whispers, although I do think SAT is much more challenging, and a 2400 is certainly more impressive than a 36 SAT is a sum, ACT is an average</p>
<p>also mifune- congrats on the 2400! that is very impressive I myself decided not to retake a 2360 (superscored 2390) because i was actually behind schedule on my testing. (I took the SAT for the first time in June of my junior year) and I had to get in 3 subject tests by the winter of my senior year so…yeah xD</p>
<p>Let’s see if we can get this back on topic. </p>
<p>Even though I do think it would be cool to have a twin (or 3…), I think it’s strange they might end up at the same school. I think I’d be tired of being with the same people for 18 years, and have to spend 4 more with them. IF they do end up ALL coming to Yale, I hope they don’t request to be put in the same college. But then again, it’s up to them.</p>
<p>Yes, that’s exactly what AA breeds - minority applicants who doubt their qualifications and wonder if they would have been admitted at all if it wasn’t for their skin color. If I am lucky enough, I will doubt myself too. But I did not leave my race off since i am simply another minority applicant who has dreams and ambitions as well - no different than the 4 Nigerians who were accepted. I am not the one who created policies that slant the playing field - Yale did – and they alone are responsible for AAs effect on minorities wondering where they would be if it were not for skin color.</p>
<p>I read the Stanford ea thread from last year and amciw kicked AA’s ***. (although mifune and his compadres really let it on in this one!) You can view it here (pages 21-28).</p>
<p>also, mifune’s 2400 was likely not the result of 2 or 3 years of expensive test prep considering he comes from a $40k background. That makes it even more impressive adn no one can doubt that.</p>
<p>In case you can’t tell LuciaB, people on the thread have been trying to go back to the original topic, and you’re just thwarting that. Can you just take your argument elsewhere?</p>
<p>^she has the right to talk about whatever she wants. this thread has been offtopic for 36 of the past 40 pages. no one yelled at the rest of them for debating</p>
<p>^ and now it’s trying to go back on topic. I’m pretty sure there’s a Race thread somewhere on the boards for you guys to debate your hearts out.</p>
<p>I have another point for discussion. A lot AA proponents claim that it will only be in place until URMs catch up with everyone else educationally. But if URM applicants are aware of AA and the boost it gives them, where is the incentive to catch up? I’ve personally heard URMs at my high school bragging about how they’ll “get in to any college they want,” which of course is not true, but nonetheless their bragging suggests that AA is making them complacent. Wouldn’t removing AA be the only way to narrow the achievement gap, even if it results lower URM representation in the short term?</p>
<p>I severely doubt any minority applicant actually thinks that. I know I didn’t. I was worried and spent alot of time working to get into top schools. The way I believed AA worked when I was applying was that colleges preferentially accepted minorities over equitably qualified ORM or whites. It was not until after CC decisions came out that I realized how severe AA is sometimes.</p>
<p>I’m going to reiterate what someone said 10 or so pages back: most (not all) applicants don’t think about how they got in, they’re just relieved to have gotten in and are ready to make the most of it. Minorities are no different.</p>
SAT is a sum, ACT is an average</p>
I myself decided not to retake a 2360 (superscored 2390) because i was actually behind schedule on my testing. (I took the SAT for the first time in June of my junior year) and I had to get in 3 subject tests by the winter of my senior year so…yeah xD</p>