Qualified Rejects - An Open Letter to UCD

<p>In talking to some current and future UCM students, there has been a general consensus that relatively underqualified students were let into more prestigious UCs while better qualified students were not admitted. Of course, qualification is in the eyes of the beholder, namely the admissions officer, but usually students, college-bound students that is, generally know what it takes to get into a UC of their choice. </p>

<p>At my school, I have witnessed many “underqualified” students get into some pretty decent schools, UCD, UCB, and Stanford being among them. After all, life isn’t fair is it? However, if life isn’t fair, at least the application process should be and it is advertised as being just that but how can a process be fair and still admit lesser qualified applicants?</p>

<p>All of my high school career, I was aiming to go to UC Davis. It may not be Berkeley or UCLA but it’s still a pretty damn good school. Having witnessed firsthand what it takes to enter the ranks at Davis from previous classes entering college from my high school, I felt relatively at ease with my application and was awaiting the acceptance letter. </p>

<p>Boy, I was in for a slap in the face when I “could not be offered” an education at Davis.</p>

<p>Just to add insult to injury, some of the “underqualified” kids, the ones that took relatively easy courses throughout high school, the ones that rarely did sports or community service if any at all, the ones that took easy courses so they can party, got in. I felt disgusted and decided to contact UCD personally. Below is the letter I wrote and sent to the office of admissions at UC Davis. If I receive a response, I will repost it here. </p>

<p>In case any of you were wondering, my stats are below as well.</p>

<p>GPA: 3.2 - 3.3</p>

<p>SAT I: 1900</p>

<p>SAT II: Biology E - 650<br>
Literature - 570<br>
U.S. History - 590</p>

<p>AP: World History - 2 <– in over my head sophomore year.
Lang - 3
US History - 4
Biology - 4
Government - Awaiting Results
Literature - Awaiting Results</p>

<p>E.C.: Mock Trial 2 years, World Affairs Challenge 2 years, Interact Club 4 years, Varsity Badminton 4 years.</p>

<p>NOTICE: I don’t need any ■■■■■■ here telling me how horrible I did. This post isn’t about how well I did but about how people could’ve achieved worse than me and still have gotten in. I take into consideration that results may not be typical at all high schools in California but this seems like the trend that has been going on for recent years at many schools. Egos should be left at your keyboards and only constructive thoughts please. Thanks.</p>

<p>For those entering college now, has this experience ever happened to you when you know the kid that got in shouldn’t have?</p>

<p>For those in college now, did you feel this way at all last year?</p>

<p>Any and all constructive thoughts welcome.</p>

<p>To whom it may concern:</p>

<p>Let me preface this by stating that although it may be inferred that I have a negative bias toward your institution due to my rejection for undergraduate studies, I can assure you that this statement was written objectively as possible and the words that are present here are not merely an emotional outcry but a calculated albeit human observation of admission trends that must be brought to light. As a patron of justice and equity (if there are such things in this world anymore), this was written solely in reaction to the apparent travesties that befell those who were qualified yet denied and in response to the gift of admission given to, forgive my tone, the most undeserving of pupils.</p>

<p>Now, on to the meat of my argument.</p>

<p>The maxim “life is not fair” is one that permeates through every facet of human society, be it from the trivial to the essential. As Darwin concluded and Spencer reaffirmed, the survival of the fittest is, and always will be, the driving force behind competition and ultimately extinction (although I won’t go that deep in this little piece of mine). Fairness and fitness are supposed to be measured in the application process and yet there is reason to believe otherwise.</p>

<p>Another belief shoved down the collective throat of the high school student populace is that if a student is qualified and there is vacancy at the institution, he or she will be admitted regardless of race (Tried to keep Bakke out did we? Tsk, tsk UCD), religion, ethnicity, or any other factor that would lead one to discriminate another against.</p>

<p>Viewing each student as a faceless, equal entity has its advantages and I dare not question the values that sheer anonymity may raise yet queries must be posed when some individuals who are far less qualified than others in specifications set by you (not you reading this but the “you” C system.), preached by you, and perceivably ignored by you are accepted while the better-suited yet rejected are left on the sidelines with only questions to show for their efforts.</p>

<p>These specifications mentioned earlier, this recipe that comprises each student and yet lumps them into a melting pot that is supposed to be equal and is supposed to separate the tasty morsels from the undesirable nasties, is made up of the cumulative grade point average (GPA), SAT I score, SAT II scores, and extracurricular activities such as sports and community involvement.</p>

<p>This rubric is supposed to act as a filter; an efficient filter to keep the toxins out and the minerals in so the fish of society can swim freely in a clean, pH balanced environment. My sincerest apologies but your filter is not functioning as well as it should.</p>

<p>May I remind you that this writing is not for my personal gain and I do not question my rejection. Go look me up, NAMEDELETED from Generic High School. My GPA was lackluster, my extracurricular was shaky and my course load could’ve been more difficult…and yet people who performed less that I did (yes, it is possible), were let into your institution. I have names, I have schools. Care to ask and look them up and possibly revise your decisions about their admittance for the sake of equity?</p>

<p>Let’s tackle this one part at a time, shall we? A high GPA can be attained through various means, of which are being smart or taking really easy classes. One can get an extremely high GPA by combining these two methods. Now, I assume that you assume that all schools in the nation teach at the same caliber and that students must be judged fairly based on this. Although this is an imperfect method of assessing students, I do not question it as, quite frankly, I do not have the power to alter it. </p>

<p>To separate ourselves from the pack of wandering, faceless academic beasts that compose the rest of our competition into higher education, students are told to enroll in more difficult courses such as Advanced Placement classes or International Baccalaureate classes to bolster our resumes. We are also rewarded for doing so, having an extra GPA point tacked on for every grade received in an AP class that is at or above a C. I cannot speak for IB classes as they are not offered at my school and I have no intimate knowledge of the program. </p>

<p>By taking these “higher level” courses, we are told the difficult course schedule would demonstrate incentive to work and a desire to be challenged. However, they also leave most of those who take them with a lower GPA as opposed to their counterparts who take the “normal” courses. </p>

<p>My basic observation is that those who took AP courses and received lower GPA’s than those who took easier, “college-prep” courses were left out while those who arguably took the easy route were let in. By wanting to achieve and following your word, we are left out to dry while the seemingly lazy are rewarded generously for their lack of effort. They know not the struggles in trying to achieve in an AP class. They know not the hardship and agony that these tests can place on students and their families. They know not the intensity of the workload and yet they do know what it feels like to be admitted, a taste that will never linger on my tongue, a tongue that has grown quite accustomed to the sour flavor of injustice. Am I making it up? Go check the admitted students from my school from last year (class of ’07) and this year. Tell me what you see. Again, I can name names. </p>

<p>I want a decent explanation as the one given during a UCD presentation at my school was insufficient and misleading. The presenter stated that course load would “be taken into consideration” yet the complete opposite has been proven at my school and many other schools across the state.</p>

<p>Also, test scores factor in heavily (or are supposed to) into the admittance decision. This is the only part of the argument where I can have some personal grudge in. I scored a 1900 on my SAT I which is not that great but can be considered above average. I took Kaplan courses three years in a row to get to that score and I took the SAT once. Fluke? Well, it would be if I didn’t pass all my AP exams last year (Lang - 3, Bio - 4, US Hist - 4), garnering an AP Scholar award in the process. I was under the impression that my unimpressive GPA would be counter-balanced by my higher than average testing capabilities. Apparently, I was under the wrong impression. I can name people from my school who scored considerably lower on their AP exams than I have and scored considerably lower on their SAT tests than I have whilst having a similar GPA to mine and still being admitted. I do not see any sense in your methods. </p>

<p>I would like a decent explanation if one could be produced. “Because we can” in the most polite form of syntax is still “because we can” and it will still be an insufficient explanation.</p>

<p>Ahh, and finally to extracurricular activities. The icing on the cake. The final touch to solidify our acceptance or, in my case, rejection.</p>

<p>There is no doubt that community service has a genuinely positive impact on society as well as on the student involved. I applaud your notion of using these out of school activities as a benchmark for admissibility…and yet those without any extracurricular services were let into your institution as opposed to others with arguably similar academic portfolios but with the addition of sports and clubs, at least at my school. </p>

<p>This observation of mine puzzles me. Was there an omission in your judgement or rather a fabrication on their applications? Perhaps a better system should be in place to verify such students did the deeds listed on their applications. Cost and time you ask? Well, what about the cost of a person losing their spot to someone else unfairly due to falsified achievements or the time it would take for someone to piece together their life again when all their hopes were riding on their admission?</p>

<p>If you need any proof, you need only look at the admittance of students from my school. My school is Generic School if you were wondering. </p>

<p>I will not touch upon the personal statement as it is supposed to hold little weight in deciding admittance…or does it? I do not know what to believe anymore.</p>

<p>The negative feelings that a single individual can harbor is nothing in comparison to the collective thought brewing among many students around California high schools this very second. Has justice been served? Is the integrity of the University of California system what it claims to be? Did the “right” people get in?</p>

<p>I do not know but it is time someone said something about it. One cannot forget that lives are molded and futures are shaped with your choice. It’s best to make the correct decision no matter the cost.</p>

<p>Thank you for your time and awaiting your response.</p>

<p>-FusioNaLL and the qualified rejects of the Class of ‘08</p>

<p>reserved for responses from UCD</p>

<p>As a fellow rejected student and future Merced student, I feel for you. But your letter will most likely be taken lightly and some generic reply will probably be sent. The UC system is so large and vast that I doubt they actually look into each high school and separate the level of difficulty of the curriculum. Yes it is definitely unfair for those who took the more rigorous honors/AP courses but ended up with a lower GPA than those that took normal classes, but really…c’mon you and I both know life ain’t really fair.
I do not really know why UC’s pick low GPA/SAT students over higher ones but I am guessing they want to create a variety on campus. The essay is a big factor in decision. It may not be the decision MAKER but when comparing a couple of similar GPA/SAT students, the essay becomes important. Maybe UCDavis saw something in that student and believed he/she would be an essential to the campus. </p>

<p>Just put all of this on the back of your mind, I sense anger in your letter but anger will not give you another chance. Although Merced is not as “prestigious” as Davis, it is still a UC and be proud! Transferring is still an option down the road so dont fret.</p>

<p>Hey fusion, I feel for you man, but you are not the only one. I am going to give you a fairly bitter response if that is okay. It is my true ‘constructive criticism.’ </p>

<p>Look, your stats are below UCD’s average. You do not have any EC’s that stand out, (that UCD would award you points for). If you look at the UCD point system (that is how you get in), you would have scored fairly low, and I am sorry, but with those stats, I do not believe that you should have been “relatively at ease with [your] application and […] awaiting the acceptance letter”</p>

<p>I know first hand of what a UCD rejection feels like. My friend with perfect stats was rejected at first. 8+AP classes, all the rest honors. 4.0 UC gpa, 1900 (like you) sat score, though her sat2 scores were higher. Her Ec’s were excellent and she received a good number of points for them. Problem? Her points did not raise her above UCD’s bar. </p>

<p>So, what I am saying here, is that you need the points to get accepted into Davis. There is no way of getting around this, so students with similar stats as you get in on very rare occasions. Your test scores are up there, but students with your UC gpa get accepted 10-25% of the time… and that is on a good year when there is not a 15% increase in applicants. With those stats, your only realistic UCs were UCSC, UCR, and UCM. Any other UC’s would be reaches, and people at CC would tell you that. </p>

<p>My friend was also considering writing ‘hate mail’ to UCD if they rejected her appeal, though she got in (thank goodness for Justice). </p>

<p>In response to your letter, it is a good idea to get bad energy out of your body. Your letter, though well thought out and well written, is just too long and complicated for whoever will receive it. You will either receive a standard “we’re sorry but we had a zillion applicants this year, try another UC” or… nothing.</p>

<p>In response to your statement: …“but usually students, college-bound students that is, generally know what it takes to get into a UC of their choice.” If I was applying to UCD, I would look at their average GPA and the average Sat score. Then I would make sure I was matched or above both of those averages. The average sat score is around 1900 range (I don’t know because I did not apply) and their average gpa is around a 3.93 or something. Then I would review how UCD awards points and try to get some activities going to receive those awarded points. For example: special talent points. For most majors, receiving a 3.9+ and a 1900+ with 600+ on sat2s will give you almost enough points to gain admittance. You may or may not need points awarded in other areas to gain admittance. I think you can see where I am going, the points did not add up for you, and you probably should have seen what Davis requires of its students. Davis does not require students to try hard, they require students to try hard and do well. Therefore, not all ‘college-bound’ students like yourself are admitted. If they admitted everyone who was college-bound, then they might as well be named UC Merced. Remember UCD ranks in the top ~40-50 colleges nationwide, so you are competing with students who are at the top of their class. </p>

<p>“some of the “under qualified” kids, the ones that took relatively easy courses throughout high school, the ones that rarely did sports or community service if any at all, the ones that took easy courses so they can party, got in.” Most counselors will say "don’t take an honors/AP course if you cannot get at least a B in it. A ‘B’ in an honors course generally is equal to an ‘A’ in a regular course. It seems like you took a lot of AP classes but got some C’s and not a whole lot of A’s. Unfortunately, UCD does not offer any points for your ‘course rigor’ and therefore, you are basically penalized for trying to excel in school. You should know now, that most UC’S do not really care about EC’s, but they like to see leadership. So all those clubs you mentioned are fluff if you were not a VP or something similar. Again, sports don’t really matter either, unless you are team captain. The schools that weigh community service and EC’s tend to be the more competitive/holistic approached schools, but the UC’s are mostly based on numbers.</p>

<p>So please understand that I have no intention of causing you distress, I am just expressing my opinion on your situation. Yeah, I am sure it sucks when you expect to get in somewhere but don’t. On the bright side, the UC system offers students the ability to go to another UC when they are rejected from one. Look at you. You have the opportunity to go to a UC with the possibility of transferring to another one in two years. Sure the intellectual environment might be a bit different at UCM compared to UCD, but you surely will meet up with some other smart UCM students (like the ones on this board) to spend the years with. </p>

<p>Best of luck!</p>

<p>Thank you for the responses thus far. </p>

<p>To Sephorazn18: Thanks for your reply and I look forward to going to school with you this upcoming term. :]</p>

<p>Anyways, about creating variety on campus, I don’t really think that’s a feasible argument. Will they let me into Harvard to create variety? But maybe you are right. The only thing that gets me is how underqualified students can get in over more qualified ones.</p>

<p>Hm, I consider myself more frustrated than angry although there were times I wanted to punch a wall and ask my bleeding fist how some students got in over others. </p>

<p>To CaliTrumpet: Thank you for your reply. I’m glad your friend got in after all as it sounds like she was truly a great student. I really had no intention of writing the letter until I saw undeserving kids getting in over ones that slaved all throughout high school.</p>

<p>My friend with similar stats as me but had a 3.7 at the end of high school was denied. Although not comparable to your friend, my friend took 4 AP courses throughout high school and was denied. Judging by the current atmosphere and intellectual rigor at Davis, that is quite understandable yet when another student who did not do sports, did not do ANY e.c., and did worse on the SATs got in, I couldn’t keep my mouth shut for long. </p>

<p>I mean, to me the choice should have been obvious when comparing my friend to the other student and yet the lesser student was chosen. As you said, courseload, sports, and E.C. were totally ignored. This would be fine if the UCD representative that was on my campus did not tell us that all of these aspects were essential to the application. If I would’ve known to take easier courses throughout high school, I would’ve but we were always told to strive for AP and strive we did. They were both Asian so race can be ruled out right there.</p>

<p>This really isn’t about me questioning my rejection. I honestly know that I did not have what it takes to get in at Davis but I felt quite comfortable since I performed better than past students that got in. I had some fleeting notion that if I could perform above their (class of '07) prowess, there would be no reason to reject me or others.</p>

<p>I’ll give you an example of what I mean by lesser achievers. You can take my word for it or not but it happened at my school last year.</p>

<p>There was a student who failed Junior year English (had to repeat during Senior year while taking Senior level English), had about a 1400 on his SAT, failed most of his AP classes and all of the exams and was still admitted to UCD. Another student from that very same year got suspended from school, had a lackluster SAT score, failed all AP exams and still got in although it is rumored he is now on academic probation at UCD.</p>

<p>Which brings me to a point of justice that seemingly seems to serve itself. Am I bitter about my rejection? Who wouldn’t be, especially if lesser students got in? Will the lesser achievers be in over their heads in college although the institution believes they will succeed? You bet. No more copying off of each other since there is no more HW (unless the professor loves to grade hundreds, if not thousands, of papers each night), no more cheating on tests as that will get you kicked out of school or worse, and no more easy (when compared to normal high school level courses) in college. All things come with time.</p>

<p>Oops. Forgive me for the second post about “reservation”. I frequent other forums and on those forums they have the option to edit any post made at any time. I assumed this one did as well but it looks like I cannot make any alterations past a time limit. </p>

<p>I was hoping to post replies, if any, from UCD. I emailed the regional representatives this letter.</p>

<p>Oh well. :] I’ll post any replies when I received them.</p>

<p>I thinking being first-generation is worth as much as a 2400 SAT on the Davis point system. So scores are not everything.</p>

<p>I have a feeling that if they do reply to your letter, they’re gonna hammer the “AP scores” paragraph by saying that they don’t look at AP scores for admissions.</p>

<p>Honestly, I’m not surprised that you got rejected with your stats, but it does annoy me that even I know of people with lower stats that have gotten in.</p>

<p>I think that another major part of the review process is what major you pick, did the kids at your school who had less stats than you get in the same major as you were going for? Because some majors are overcrowded and over populated, and others are not.</p>

<p>To battleship2012: Yeah, I totally forgot about aspects like that. I don’t think they can “make or break” an application though…Then again, maybe. I don’t know what to think anymore.</p>

<p>To Feez: Agreed, it is quite annoying. I’m not surprised that I got rejected when I compare myself with the average stats from UCD but I am surprised at how poorly students performed and still got in, worse than me. Sad. </p>

<p>AP scores are used for admission? I’ve heard otherwise from my counselors but I’ve heard they don’t matter from other students as well. Maybe by saying they do matter was just another ploy to get us to do well on the APs. </p>

<p>To Arian19: Same major, Undeclared Life Sciences. I was seriously thinking about putting Afro-American Studies on a Berkeley application. ;] This is such a great way to work the system I’m surprised there are no ways to reduce this “major swapping admission”…Oops, I suddenly had an epiphany and want to be an M.D. now since Philosophy wasn’t working out. -__-</p>

<p>^ AP scores from what I know are not really looked at in the admission process. Davis btw does not award any points for high AP scores.</p>

<p>As for majors, if you want to study a major that is impacted, (undeclared life sciences isn’t one of them), you might as well put that major down as your first choice. You are not allowed to use agriculture to get into the school and then switch to business because it was hard to get in out of high school, it doesn’t work that way :)</p>

<p>To Cali Trumpet: Hm, I’m glad that it is not allowed then as I have heard many stories of students applying in less competitive majors and then transferring over to what they really want to study. Even my mother told me about how her coworker’s kids did this…but then again, they were stories. :]</p>

<p>Perhaps it depends on the school (since I don’t know each individual UC works). I based my answer off of UCLA’s website because I did research in this area myself. Basically, my major, Economics, is impacted. Most can get into UCLA with a 3.5ish but my major requires a 3.9ish. If I transferred to UCLA in applied mathematics and got in, according to UCLA’s website, I am not allowed to to transfer into Economics (or any other impacted major).</p>

<p>Thats great cali trumpet, but how are you doing at LA right now, compared to how you did at merced?</p>

<p>I don’t think Cali Trumpet went to Merced…correct me if I’m wrong though. :]</p>

<p>…I never said I am going to L.a, I am going to UCSC as a Freshman next year. I was speaking hypothetically :)</p>

<p>Hehe 2 strikes and your out! O:-) j/k</p>

<p>Anyways
Even if you sincerely change your mind about changing fields within your college (not just to the one you REALLY wanted but couldn’t get into), they have req’s for each college, especially if it’s impacted like engineering or something. You also need to wait a quarter I believe (UCD).
It is also rather frowned upon. For instance, Cal Poly SLO is not unduly happy with you when you decide next semester that you would rather be an engineer than a communications major, etc.</p>