<p>What is up with the quality of Guaranteed Transfer students here?? Two kids from my high school who barely had a 3.0UW are now coming to Cornell…others have under a 24 ACT score and under 1600/2400 SAT scores (and even worse they brag about it!). </p>
<p>In my classes, GT’s ask the stupidest questions and distract the class from learning. For example, a GT girl complained in front of the entire 150-student class to the professor about how she was scoring low on her quizes, and he was being unfair. The professor asks her if she did the readings and she said “no”.</p>
<p>We have GTs coming in who are so outspoken its almost embarrassing to hear them speak out in lecture. I know the motto is “Any person, Any study,” but to sacrifice the quality of the learning environment for it…what is Cornell thinking??</p>
<p>My GT friends and I have made deans list every semester since getting here (literally…all of my gt friends) so I think your observations are inaccurate as far as the general population is concerned. There are annoying and seemingly subpar students in every class. I’m sure there are a bunch of very intelligent gts in that class but u just don’t realize because they don’t act like that one person.</p>
<p>“Two kids from my high school who barely had a 3.0UW are now coming to Cornell…others have under a 24 ACT score and under 1600/2400 SAT scores (and even worse they brag about it!).”</p>
<p>Is this really that common? I had a barely-3.0 GPA in high school, but a high SAT score, and very relevant EC’s. A letter of recommendation from a CALS associate dean didn’t hurt either. I thought I was in the low-end of GT’s when it comes to “stats”…is this actually not true?</p>
<p>A lot of my GT friends aren’t that smart, and they didn’t get into other good schools, either. I’ve made dean’s list here and did get into schools pretty comparable to Cornell. So, it varies. My best friend here is a GT as well and he’s pretty much brilliant. I know a bunch of the NY state and AEM GTs who aren’t as smart. So yeah, you’ll see some people who don’t know what they’re talking about in lecture. But that’s not the majority, by any means.</p>
<p>I think that you’d get this variation anyway, though.</p>
<p>Barely 3.0s and they’re GTs? There’s something wrong with that picture. I’m a current Cornellian and my roommate was a GT. I’ve seen his transcript from HS and we compare standardized test scores, he had a 3.9/4.0 and a 28/36. I have never beat him on a test here at Cornell thus far, and I have a 3.8.</p>
<p>I’m aware that there are some really obscure majors with high acceptance rates that are even higher when you count in the GT factor and that it is possible to abuse the system and internally transfer, but the GTs here are absolutely not “lower in quality” than any of the other students, on average. </p>
<p>I’m not a GT so I have no reason to defend them, but some of the brightest kids I know here are GTs. I can’t explain the acceptance of students with low 3.0 GPA’s getting in though. Either they’re lying, lied on their apps, or found GT loopholes.</p>
<p>I know several (about 5) subpar kids from my high school the year before me who weren’t that impressive and ended up with a GT…though from my year, I was the only GT and had pretty solid stats for cornell (1480/2180, top 5% of class, good EC’s) while others with 1400’s/top 5% got outright rejected. Does anyone know if they gave out more GT’s two years ago, or is it just a coincidence?</p>
<p>I’m a GT and I had a 4.0, was ranked 12/315, and had a 31ACT , so hs standards def. run the gamut. i’ve heard of GT’s with higher stats and lower ones as well. </p>
<p>I understand why these kids would annoy you, but I believe the vast majority of us are intellegent, capable thinkers. It really sucks to meet ppl like this, but lets face it, everywhere in life there are less than abled individuals that through somehow or another rose the rankings of life (Don’t get me started on our past President!)</p>
<p>Just remember, most GT’s love Cornell so much that they are willing to put thier life on hold for a year or two just to be given the chance to study here. In my opinion, we as a group are comprised of some of the most loyal and grateful Cornellians.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t extrapolate your experiences to the overall GT community. I’m sure some GTs are given to underqualified students for various reasons (perhaps they have money?). It’s certainly not universal that GTs have inferior academic backgrounds.</p>
<p>I was a GT and found myself surprised at the stupid questions 4-year students would sometimes ask and how ignorant some were about basic concepts. I would go into some classes initially expecting to be overwhelmed by normal students and wound up emerging atop the class.</p>
<p>I think it just comes with the territory of 18-21 year olds.</p>
<p>Isn’t there a difference between the two types of GTs?
Those who transferred from SUNY into CALS by taking prerequisites vs Those who received a GT on their Freshman application</p>
<p>I wouldn’t be surprised if one group is of a higher quality than the other.</p>
<p>Oh yeah. There’s a huge difference. I knew many of the SUNY prereq crowd and they would never have been accepted in a conventional manner. I was actually rather surprised, but the ones I knew relegated themselves to a very narrow spectrum of majors like animal science for farming that simply required a different set of skills.</p>
<p>Big difference from those GTs accepted in high school in my experience. Perhaps that’s what the OP has experienced.</p>
<p>I had a 3.8 1450/1600 2100/2400, math2 760, physics 710, and 16 ap/dual enrolment classes completed. I also have a 4.0 from my first semester of college. I think you probably came across some kids who are not representative of GT students as a whole.</p>