Question for Asians

[TritiumKnight]

<p>Pffft…they are but its a kung-fu movie…</p>

<p>lol, a fight for equal rights takes the will of the Asian population…and most Asians are apathetic towards such a movement. So, I’m just going to take it and probably move to Canada. Everyone’s nice there ;)</p>

[Burmz]

<p>what does this have to do with equal rights?</p>

[sweethoney]

<p>If all the asian families who could afford it had just ONE MORE kid, then the ASIAN population would be LARGER, which means that things would get better for the next generation. </p>

<p>BUT since asians won’t do that, it’s THIER lOSE</p>

[mcqdeltat]

<p>Perhaps, Asian want their one kid to be perfect? Talk about unrealistic expectations!</p>

[krnpsychopath]

<p>I’m majoring in Film production and I have a script in the making for a t.v series.</p>

<p>I had to change my Asian male leads into Caucasian leads.</p>

<p>My professors and friends told me that the audience will not ready for a Asian lead. They said it won’t look right when the main character is Asian and is making out with a white girl. So I had to turn the dumb white character into a dumb Asian character.</p>

<p>The only reason why Asians are not in the media as much is because we shy away from the arts in America. But back at our country do you see a white or black male/female main character?</p>

<p>But of course you could argue that America is a lot more diverse and should have a Asian main character in one of it’s shows. </p>

<p>Do you seriously think the entertainment industry hasn’t thought about this? The only problem is trying to introduce this idea without having the audience give such a negative reaction. </p>

<p>This is why we need to learn about different cultures and different societies to become more tolerant and more accepting.</p>

<p>BTW guys when you see my series up on t.v in about…4-10000 years watch it every week. xD Hopefully I’ll be able to sell it.</p>

[mcqdeltat]

<p>Is the US ready for a black, female, or asian president? I believe that anything would be better than Bush.</p>

[ChamilitaryMayne]

<p>what about harold and kumar? i hope there are a lot of asians out there like those two guys</p>

[mcqdeltat]

<p>Harold and Kumar completes my quota for Asian on film. I don’t think any thing else can be that. But its potentially racist towards whites? Freakshow?</p>

[fizix2]

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Do you get offended by the stereotypes America reinforces about Asians in the media?

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<p>No, because I perceive myself as a white male. I’m so Asian that I can’t even use chopsticks or speak Chinese! I think I’m the only one in my family who can’t speak Chinese.</p>

<p>People naturally assume I’m shy when they see me sitting on my bed for hours at a time playing NetHack – it’s definitely not my race.</p>

<p>It also helps that I don’t pay attention to most of the media.</p>

[Jason1117]

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Perhaps, Asian want their one kid to be perfect? Talk about unrealistic expectations!

Whites don’t want their kids to be perfect?</p>

[mcqdeltat]

<p>I don’t know, most people I know have lackadaisical parents who are interested in kicking out their kids as soon as they turn 18. I guess a lot depends on socio economic status.</p>

[ChamilitaryMayne]

<p>asian parents stress the importance of school and not entertainment while parents of other races can tend to be more lenient…are there many asians in school plays?</p>

[firewalker]

<p>“My professors and friends told me that the audience will not ready for a Asian lead. They said it won’t look right when the main character is Asian and is making out with a white girl. So I had to turn the dumb white character into a dumb Asian character.”</p>

<p>I think it’s time you grew a spine.</p>

[fizix2]

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asian parents stress the importance of school and not entertainment

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<p>Asian parents tend to have their kids play piano or violin or some other musical instrument.</p>

<p>It’s a different sort of entertainment, I guess.</p>

[oasis]

<p>Yes, it’s the “safe” kind of entertainment that is supposed to be a better way of releasing stress from schoolwork - as opposed to computer games or sports which may leave one addicted. ;)</p>

[k_amp_s]

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Or do you feel disappointed in the lack of Asians on TV. Sometimes I complain about how there are hardly any Black women on TV and then I remember that Asians, including Indians, have it much worse. And when you are on TV, you are there for comic relief as on MadTv or on Heroes. If not that, then you’re the smart nerdy kid in class, the whole genius Asian thing, or the closeted smart stoner/skater/punk rock Asian kid who is the the side kick for the white kid.

There are actually more BFs on TV shows than you might think – nevertheless, there are considerably more BM characters on TV (Hollywood is a male dominated medium and there more BMs, WMs, HMs than their female counterparts – the only exception? Asians, where there are more AFs than AMs).</p>

<p>In addition, BM characters have been regularly paired with females from all backgrounds while BFs have largely been restricted to pairings with BMs (AFs, otoh, are pretty much never partnered with AMs).

It’s just that Asians are currently “easier” to pick on right now since in general, we are taught to avoid fighting back unless absolutely necessary. Although Asian communnity response to strong or blatant racism is equally strong and unified, such responses are relatively uncommon… partially attributed to the fact that there’s no Asian that’s as prominent/notorious as people like Al Sharpton.

True – in this PC world, it is more acceptable to make fun of Asians (after all, Asians are the “model minority” and aren’t disadvantaged in any way).</p>

<p>This is the reason why a female comedian (on Leno) poked fun of Jolie’s and Pitt’s Asian kid (using the typical stereotypes), instead of “poking fun” of the African kid.</p>

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However… I absolutely hate hate hate it when Asians complain about things and they start blaming everything on the fact that they’re Asian. </p>

<p>or (for asian guys) “I asked so and so attractive girl out and she rejected me because I’m asian so therefore she must think [insert asian stereotypes here]”

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<p>True – however, these complainers have been brainwashed by the same media and societal attitudes where they equate Asian male = loser.</p>

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the number #1 reason why networks don’t get more non-stereotypical roles for asians is becuase asians don’t cry out. The above posters pretty much were like, it’s okay…stereotype me, I am used to it. W the F? If asians cry out, then things will happen. Just look at what happened with JV and the Doghouse…radio show…google it.They called asian women sex objects who needed to be saved by white men, and asian men as losers with eggrolls for d#icks who “cooked flied lice.” Many asians cried out, and the show eventually lost funding and was cancelled. </p>

<p>The number two reason why the networks IGNORE the asians is the FAULT OF THE ASIANS THEMSELVES!

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<p>True – Asian-Americans besides being regarded as the “model minority” are also known as the “silent minority.” In addition, Asian-Americans (particularly 1st gen) tend to be divided along ethnic lines.</p>

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In america, democracy is all about population size. If your population size is small, progress ISN"T GONNA happen, not matter how vocal/activism-ish you are.

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<p>Not really true – gay/lesbians are about the same pop. size as Asian-Americans and they have seen a good amount of progress the past couple of decades.</p>

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Asians I know only care about having one kid and getting him into Harvard. Asians are way too materialistic and want to spend money on material c #rap than on another child.

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<p>Family size averages 3.8 for Asian American families and 3.2 for all American families and Asian-American families tend to save a greater portion of their income than the average American family (not to mention that Asian-Americans contributed 20% of the US charitable aid to the tsunami relief a couple of years back).</p>

<p>Just the facts.</p>

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Umm, no. The average Asian male in the US does poorly in reference to other racial groups. Black, Hispanic, White.</p>

<p>Well, I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that Asian males will never match Whites or Blacks in the dating market in the US.

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<p>Yes – due to the prevalence of the stereotypes (this is particularly a prime factor with regard to online dating where stereotypes are much more difficult to overcome).</p>

<p>Otoh, US born Asian-males outmarry (basically to WFs) at higher rates than any other group (at a 20% rate).</p>

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Oh, I don’t know about that. Taller men get better results with women. Umm, Asians are shorter than Whites who are shorter than Blacks. Concidentally this happens to follow the reality of the dating market.

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<p>Actually, American WMs are slightly taller than American BMs (which coincidentally happens to follow the reality of the dating market).</p>

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I’m not sure I see the big media bad guy pointing out that Asians are shorter, on average.

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<p>But the big, bad media has a tendency to hire short (and basically unattractive) AM actors, instead of their tall, attractive counterparts.</p>

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The Japenese upped their protein and they are now as tall as american (AKA majority white) men.

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<p>The Japanese despite enjoying decades of prosperity before the South Koreans and Northern Chinese are, on average, about an inch shorter (probably has to do with the genetics of the indigenous pop.).</p>

<p>The average height of young SK males is about an inch shorter than that for the average American male and on par with that of Irish, Italian, French males – and the height of Korean-Americans and (Northern) Chinese-Americans are even taller (most Chinese in the US are from the SE provinces – Guangdong and Fujian provinces).</p>

<p>Here’s a video of elite SK soldiers (compare with their NK counterparts – ironically, NK males over the age of 60 are taller than their Southern counterparts).</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=korean+soldiers&search=Search[/url]”>http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=korean+soldiers&search=Search&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

[k_amp_s]

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That being said, I would feel kinda uneasy seeing an Asian playing a regular role in a Hollywood movie. Even I feel uneasy seeing an middle-aged Asian actor speaking perfect English on screen.

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<p>Shows how much you have been affected by the media portrayal of Asians as foreigners (particularly Asian males – it’s no coincidence that the 2 biggest roles for AMs in network TV are as foreigners – “Lost” and “Heroes”) and the lack of “regular” Asian-Americans.</p>

<p>Otoh, Asian-American females have fared better with regular, non-stereotypical Asian-American roles, are much more represented in advertising (primarily paired with WMs) and host a good no. of cable TV shows and are news anchors for both local news in major markets and for national cable news networks.</p>

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As for the asians in pop culture thing, aren’t Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, and Jet Li indicative of protagonist asians?

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<p>Pfft – all martial artists and foreigners (while Lee is technically an American, he had to go to Asia for a career).</p>

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I had to change my Asian male leads into Caucasian leads.</p>

<p>My professors and friends told me that the audience will not ready for a Asian lead. They said it won’t look right when the main character is Asian and is making out with a white girl. So I had to turn the dumb white character into a dumb Asian character.

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<p>The writers for “Harold & Kumar” wrote their script b/c they noticed the lack of representation of “regular” Asian guys (like their friends at Princeton).</p>

<p>And even tho being Asian (one East, one South) was a central part of the film, the studio execs still wanted to make one of the leads a WM.</p>

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The only reason why Asians are not in the media as much is because we shy away from the arts in America. But back at our country do you see a white or black male/female main character?

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<p>Not true – there are actually quite a bit of Asian-Americans in the arts (whether it is acting, music, design, architecture, etc.). However, many Asian-American actors and singers end up going to Asia for a career due to lack of opportunities (in fact, a good no of Asian-looking hapas have ended up in Asia as actors/singers despite not being able to speak an Asian language).</p>

[Mr_Payne]

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But the big, bad media has a tendency to hire short (and basically unattractive) AM actors, instead of their tall, attractive counterparts.

I doubt that highly. What you really want to say is that they rarely hire Asian Americans in general (hypothetically they should be 3% of any cast).</p>

[nbachris2788]

<p>^</p>

<p>Actually, it makes sense when you consider that most of the roles written for Asian males are as comic foils: it’s helluva lot easier to laugh with (or at) Bobby Lee than Rick Yune.</p>

<p>Asian males have had the most success in reality shows (Survivor and The Amazing Race in particular), where storylines and personalities are not predetermined by some White hack.</p>

[Mr_Payne]

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Asian males have had the most success in reality shows (Survivor and The Amazing Race in particular), where storylines and personalities are not predetermined by some White hack.

Damn. You do have a lot of frustration with the media.</p>