<p>I will be trying my luck at several schools again because I will have less than one year of college work. If I will be attending a university, will I need to get counselor forms and teacher recs from my HS or my current college?</p>
<p>your current college.</p>
<p>although, you will need your HS transcript.</p>
<p>Hold on…you’re not a freshman applicant.
Even though you haven’t finished your first year…you’re still considered a transfer applicant because the schools expect you to finish your fisrt year at whatever school you are at now.</p>
<p>oh yeah… you can not reapply as a freshman applicant. you will have to apply as a transfer applicant.</p>
<p>There is no standard answer. It’s a different answer with every school. To reapply as a freashman, you have to make certain that you have not exceeded the maximum number of credits to qualify as a first-year applicant. Only Harvard and Boston University come to mind for you. You need to be more specific. If it is less than 3 courses, for examle, you could apply to Boston College as a freshman. U of Michigan, it’s one course. All schools keep the records for one to two years, as this is the window of transfer applications. Start now getting forms from the high school because once they are busy with the seniors you will not be a priority. Take this opportunity to ask diferent teachers for new recs., especially if you are applying to some of the same schools. They will look at the old file if you are seriously considered. Transfer application has bad odds for admission, so this is a smart route. Not only are you facing better odds, as there are more spaces for freshman, but you’ll present college-level work for their consideration. Most seniors will not have this proof of ability at the college level. Good luck. And make sure you get confirmation of your first-year eligibility. I know of two highly regarded colleges that gave conflicting and inaccurate criteria to an applicant who wanted to reapply as a freshman. Look for something in writing. If it is on the web pages, copy it somehow. Take a photo if the page is not printable. Web pages go missing without explanation all the time. Where are you applying? Go for it… :)</p>
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<p>I have checked almost all the websites for the schools I am thinking about and they all say the same thing. If you have completed less than a year of college at the time of application, then you apply as a freshman. Some of the liberal arts colleges are a bit iffy and expect you to do a sophmore transfer, but for the most part, here are some of the schools I plan on reapplying to as a freshmen:</p>
<p>Dartmouth ED
"Dartmouth classifies you as a transfer applicant if you have spent at least one year at another college or university.</p>
<p>Brown
“To be eligible for transfer application you must have completed at least one full year of college study (or its equivalent) before your planned matriculation at Brown.”</p>
<p>Columbia (waitlisted 06)
“To be eligible to enroll at Columbia, you must have completed the equivalent of one full academic year.”</p>
<p>Stanford
“Transfer applicants must have completed at least one full academic year (two semesters or three quarters, excluding summer sessions) prior to their anticipated enrollment at Stanford, and they must be able to present records of at least 26 semester or 39 quarter units of transferable course credit, excluding AP credit and credit awarded by exam.”</p>
<p>Yale
" If by the end of the current academic year you will have completed less than one year of full-time college study, you should apply through the freshman admissions process. If you matriculate at Yale as a freshman, course credit or distributional credit cannot be given for any university course taken while you were still enrolled in secondary school. Work done after graduation from secondary school but before matriculation at Yale may be accepted (to a maximum of two credits) on recommendation from the appropriate director of undergraduate studies." — I am a little unsure about yale because they say “by the end of the current academic year”</p>
<p>Amherst
"You are eligible for transfer admission to Amherst if you have completed at least one year as a full-time student at a college or university.</p>
<p>Possibly:</p>
<p>Penn
“The University does not admit freshmen at mid-year. Students who leave college at the end of the first term may apply to the freshman class entering in the subsequent September. The freshman application deadline is January 1. Students who are completing their senior year of high school concurrently with their first year of college should apply as freshmen.” – not sure either…</p>
<p>Harvard
“By the anticipated date of matriculation, applicants must have satisfactorily completed a minimum of one continuous academic year in a degree program at one college, and not more than two academic years of full-time college study.” – also unsure…</p>
<p>Pomona</p>
<p>Haverford
“A student is eligible for transfer admission to
Haverford if at least one year has been completed as
a full-time student at a college or university. We do
not accept applications from students who have
already earned a bachelor’s degree.”</p>
<p>Lost in Space, thanks for the encouragement! And really quick, what were the two colleges that gave conflicting information? I have called dartmouth and pomona and they confirmed that I can reapply as a first year. As for the others, I will call and confirm on monday.</p>
<p>So what are you planning to do?
Just take one semester of classes?
You know that if you get in, all those credits are wasted right?</p>
<p>Even if you apply during you freshman year in college, you are still a trasfer student. You take classes for the fall semester…they you send in your apps while you are in your second semester classes. (around feb to mid march depending on the school). You finish your classes…and then you find out whether you were accepted or not around late April to mid June…again depending on the school. By then, your first year of college will be over. If you get in, then hopefully some credits from your current school will transfer in.</p>
<p>Reapplying as a freshman is rarely done…its really a waste of time. Get going with life.</p>
<p>You should have finished with one year of college when you “matriculate”, not when you apply.
When they say that</p>
<p>well put :]</p>
<p>not all of them say “by the time you matriculate,” but if that’s what they mean, then I guess I will have to apply as a sophmore transfer. In either case, I will be calling and confirming on monday. In terms of reapplying as a freshman being a waste of time and credits… I am willing to make that sacrifice for personal reasons.</p>
<p>Could you post an update on how those calls went please.</p>
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<p>why not apply as a transfer? if you mess this up wouldn’t you end up going to a community college?</p>
<p>Where are you going this year anyway?</p>
<p>wow, I started this a long time ago, but anywho… I’ll be applying as a transfer because I called all the schools and confirmed that its by the time of matriculation.</p>
<p>…and windcloudultra, I’ll be going to UCLA.</p>