<p>Has there been any follow-up on this story recently? </p>
<p>[Department</a> of Education expands inquiry into Jian Li bias case - The Daily Princetonian](<a href=“http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/2008/09/08/21307/]Department”>http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/2008/09/08/21307/)</p>
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<p>I don’t know, but it seems that on average, the Duke admissions officers thought that URM admits were less qualified:</p>
<p>[News:</a> Testing for ‘Mismatch’ - Inside Higher Ed](<a href=“http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/04/20/mismatch]News:”>http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/04/20/mismatch)</p>
<p>Boy, talk about agendas! (Yours and the efforts discussed in the article). What a big yawn and much ado about nothin’. </p>
<p>No…one…cares. Here’s the bottom line:</p>
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<p>And yet, there is a great disparity in freshman GPAs as well as admission factors among the races.</p>
<p>This topic came up recently and no one seemed to know the answer.</p>
<p>While Jews are certainly not a URM - at least in most areas - in our college tours we haven’t noticed any obvious Orthodox Jews. They could have been there, but certainly didn’t stand out.</p>
<p>When I’ve spoken with business associates who are from that community they’ve told me that their kids don’t get into the big college search thing. They stay close to home, or do religious studies, or go into business at 18. In fact, in a humorous conversation from a few months ago, after the obvious prompt from me, a religious guy said “Why would your son want to go to Tennessee for college?” </p>
<p>So, are Orthodox Jews considered a URM?</p>
<p>I’d have to say, No. although I see your point, I just don’t think so (this is from a conservative jew’s perspective)</p>
<p>I don’t think colleges distinguish among Orthodox, Conservative, and Reform.</p>
<p>As a whole, Jews are ORM’s.</p>
<p>Jewish people are vastly over-represented at colleges.</p>
<p>Some colleges have a “how will you contribute to the diversity of X U” or something like that essay. You might be able to work being an Orthodox Jew into that.</p>
<p>The simple answer is no. As someone already stated, Jewish people as a whole are way over-represented…I think it would help if you were like realllllly really into your Jewish heritage and founded clubs, hosted meetings/rallies, ran a temple lol etc.</p>
<p>No, definitely not. A good amount of them go to college, but a lot of them go to Yeshivas or move to Israel. There are a few religious Jews at my school, though.</p>
<p>Being an Orthodox Jew doesn’t make you a URM in terms of college admissions simply because Jews (of any sect/intensity) are not seen as a minority needing a boost in the admissions process.</p>
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<p>Why would you think so?</p>
<p>I’m a white guy, so I get no URM/Minority/etc. status.</p>
<p>But, what if, I were to check “Choose Not to Respond” on the applications in the race section? Would the college assume that I were a minority and review me with lower standards, since the majority of people that check that are likely minorities who don’t want to be admitted because of affirmative action?</p>
<p>Just a thought.</p>
<p>No, they would most likely assume that you are white or Asian, because the vast majority of people that check that are whites and Asians who don’t want to be rejected because of affirmative action.</p>
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Well, I thought I explained that in my post above, can’t really add anything to it except perhaps a visual aid:</p>
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<p>When was the last time you saw a group like that on campus?</p>
<p>They definitely aren’t going to hold you to a lower standard just because you don’t divulge your race on the application.</p>
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<p>I have a dream, that one day the people of the world will actually be that noble, be that honest. Unfortunately that day will never come.</p>
<p>How are they being more honest by failing to fill in their minority status? People use everything they have to their advantage, be it tutors for the SAT/ACT, legacy status, minority status, money, etc.</p>
<p>honest isn’t exactly what I meant, but I can’t think of a better word.</p>
<p>It’s more… honorable. </p>
<p>anyway, not selecting a race <em>might</em> be beneficial to asians a bit, but not whites. </p>
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URM = +1
white = 0
asian = -1</p>
<p>then not telling would be something like -0.5</p>
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