Why? Read above - some of us said not much different than an “esteemed” poster. We got eviscerated. She got many thumbs up. Why??
I would think, based on the harassment Megyn Kelly experienced from Roger Ailes at Fox News, she would show sympathy / empathy toward alleged victims. While Megyn Kelly was harassed, had she given in, I think it’s reasonable to say that she would have been sexually assaulted, even if she knew in advance it was going to happen and allowed it to happen.
Megyn said:
I just don’t know where to begin. What the hell is Megyn thinking?
Sorry, not directed at you @tsbna44 . Meant to reply in general.
Yes, it’s an opinion piece, but it sums up her misogyny well. Also touches on Roger Ailes.
No idea.
If she’s Jane Doe, she shouldn’t be known - but hmmmm - yeah, what service is she doing for any woman?
And is she saying there’s a “looks” barometer for sexual assault?
Wow
@Leigh22 just read the article while I was waiting for my 15 minutes to elapse since the previous - so I’ll say thanks for posting here vs. another post. Interesting perspective - especially with the tie in to Gretchen Carlson. Wow, very surprising.
Megyn Kelly is irrelevant and whatever her opinion is, it’s just one person’s opinion. This thread will quickly go down the political rabbit hole and get locked pretty soon if we’re not careful.
Interesting article from the Duke paper.
“ Duke recently documented increased reports of rape on campus last year, more than tripling from two in 2024 to nine in 2025. The uptick was primarily driven by a rise in rapes reported in on-campus dorms, which jumped from one to six.”
And
“Duke currently has no Interfraternity or Panhellenic Councils, after member fraternities and sororities decided to disaffiliate from the University in 2021”
Never mind
Ah, Megyn Kelly, one of whose criticisms targeting Jane Doe was that she took “weeks to report” yet herself took about 10 years to press her sexual harassment case against
Roger Ailes, because of her lack of power at the network?
Kelly said it would have been “a suicide mission” for her professionally if she publicly accused Ailes of harassment at the time she alleges it occurred.
“I now know the number of women who were targeted, and it’s disturbing,” she said. “But realistically, that would have been a suicide mission for me and my career.”
You’d think she’d understand why victims afraid of being targeted by those with more power (in whatever context they are in) might not come forward immediately.
If anyone has time to read 101 pages, here is a copy if the complaint filed a few weeks ago by Jane Doe (since then a few documents were asked to be sealed b/c they contained the address of a person with the same name as one of the defendants but who has nothing to do with the case) https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/doe-cornell-new-york-supreme.pdf
Yes, Clery Report has a category called Public Property. “ Public streets passing through the campus; public property and streets immediately adjacent to and accessible from the campus as reported to the Duke and Durham Police Department”.
0 Rapes in 2025 on Public Property
Duke increasing from 2 to 9 in a particular year is too small a sample to draw broad conclusions. Over the past 10 years, the number has varied from a minimum of 2 to a high of 19. In the year with 19, only 2 were referred to Duke police, and only 1 had criminal charges.
While there is a correlation with fraternities, changing or even disbanding fraternities doesn’t end SAs. There is a PhD paper in which the author reviews how rate of alcohol and SAs changed at 40+ universities when they issued a moratorium on alcohol at fraternities. The author found that with less alcohol at fraternities, there was a sharp uptick in rate of alcohol violations in non-fraternity housing and smaller decrease in the overall total. The rate of SAs also decreased, but was not statistically significant overall. It only reached statistical significance when adding additional controls, such as only comparing count on weekends at specific types of colleges.
Even one is too many and it’s crazy, that these kids (at least on the CC) are falling all over themselves to get into these colleges.
Clearly there is danger everywhere.
My wife canvasses for different candidates and I always worry with her knocking on doors, even though she says the homes are pre selected (known democrats). Who’s to say someone couldn’t go wrong - a shooting, robbery, assault?
Have not read it but did catch my eye that it mentioned a 2022-2023 Cornell resolution condemning Greek life before the Jane Doe incident. The way it’s worded is kind of typical resolution stuff but some of the incidents include the following:
Whereas, there have been 5 reported cases of drugging and 2 reports of sexual assault at Cornell University from November 3rd through 9th, all of which occurring at fraternity addresses; [….]
Whereas, brothers of Psi Upsilon assaulted a Black student, repeatedly calling him the N-word and other expletives in 2017;
Whereas, multiple chapters of Sigma Alpha Epsilon had a chant “There will never be an n*** in SAE. You can hang him from a tree, but he can never sign with me”;
Whereas, brothers of Zeta Beta Tau conducted a “pig roast” in 2018, a game where brothers had sex with women for points, with the winner having sex with the heaviest woman;
Whereas, fraternities have nicknames like “Thumpty” (from the sound of bodies hitting the floor after victims have been roofied at Theta Delta Chi), “Sexual Assault Expected” (the national nickname for Sigma Alpha Epsilon, which was recently allowed back on campus after a 10-year ban following the murder of George Desdunes), and “Spike” (a play on Pike, or Pi Kappa Alpha)
There is no case.
My statement was meant to be generalized to all situations, that it is never the responsibility of anyone to recognize that an adult is intoxicated, which is what Jane Doe’s case is based upon. NYT: [1]
Yet on that night in October 2024, an underage Jane Doe drank alcohol with her sorority sisters at their house, downing what she later estimated to be about six shots of vodka. The “house mom,” an employee of the sorority who supervised the women living in the house, escorted an intoxicated Jane Doe in an Uber from the sorority house to a bar in downtown Ithaca, the lawsuit said. At that bar, where Tri Delta hosted a “date party” for women and their guests, Jane Doe was able to drink even more alcohol, ordering a cocktail from a bartender without interference, the lawsuit said.
These events, the lawsuit said, led directly to the sexual assault of Jane Doe later that night at the Chi Phi house…
But when the group eventually loaded into a pair of Ubers for the party, Jane Doe was mistakenly left behind.
Alone and struggling to hold back tears of disappointment, she sought out the “house mom.”
“I didn’t want to tell her I was drunk because she’s a mandated reporter,” Jane Doe said, according to a transcript of her conversation with investigators.
I know I’m unwordly for never having had a drink, and never hanging out with those drinking. But what about the house mother? It’s likely the world is full of unworldly people, and we’re never going to accept responsibility for people like Jane Doe.
The bit of her lawsuit blaming others for her drinking is not only infuriating, the NYT makes clear that it is what makes this a money grab.
Legal experts said that the inclusion of Tri Delta as a defendant in the lawsuit reflected a common strategy in civil legal actions like this one. Including every party who could be held liable for a plaintiff’s suffering helps make a case to a jury. And the more defendants found liable, the more financial damages a plaintiff could presumably recover, the experts added.
I’m not on the pc to find it but there was a poster a few days ago that said a house mother would never allow this. I’ll find it later. It’s in this thread.
That’s speculation, of course, but really everything we read is, too.
But what you posted clearly puts the house mother in the crossing hairs, if true.
Regardless of one’s thoughts on the merits of the case, I would be very surprised to find it believable that a house mother at a sorority is unable to realize when someone is drunk, especially as drunk as this girl seems to have been.
Seems or claims?
Re: house mothers - my daughter’s house mother was in her late 60’s/early 70’s (a grandmother). She lived in a small apartment in a ground floor wing of their house. My daughter rarely saw her except on sorority parents’ weekends, when she would emerge and mingle with the parents. I briefly met her on one of those weekends - she seemed nice enough but it never occurred to me that she would have any responsibility to oversee my daughter individually, or monitor her drinking, unless she was notified that my daughter was overserved and needed medical attention while in the sorority house. It felt like she was just there as CYA for the national sorority.
I went to college in the north and was in a local sorority with no national sorority oversight. We had a sorority house where I lived for 2 years with 21 other girls. We governed ourselves, delt with home maintenance issues, landlord issues, paid our rent, etc., with little to no controversy. I was unaccustomed to the concept south of the Mason-Dixon Line, of the sorority mansions with house mothers, chefs and oversight from a national organization, that my daughter’s college had (and the hefty price tag to go with it).
Well if you read the interviews, transcripts etc it seems pretty clear Jane Doe was drinking shots of vodka with other women at the sorority, then got in an Uber with the house mom and was dropped off at a bar.