Reapply / Advice / Plan B

<p>First of all, congratulations to each of you who got into a great college! I’m sure you’re all great students and truly deserve your acceptances. Be proud of yourself, you all accomplished something really great! </p>

<p>Unfortunately I cannot say the same about myself: I applied to 13 colleges and got rejected by all of them. (Okay, I still didn’t get an answer from Williams, but after my 12 rejections I’m confident that I won’t get in there either.) I didn’t apply to any safety school because it would have been very hard for me to qualify for financial aid as an international student at a state school, but also because I fell in love with some great colleges and just didn’t want to make a compromise in my education. </p>

<p>I have to say that even though I only got rejections, I don’t feel too bad. Actually, I feel relieved and am not really disappointed. The reason is that since at least five years I dreamed of going to the US for college, and had I already gotten in, the biggest dream of my life had been already fulfilled. That would somehow just be too easy :slight_smile: I actually moved and lived on my own for the past two years just to be able to go to an international school to have better chances of getting into one of my dream colleges, but even though somehow all my effort seems to have been in vain, I’m feeling fine. So I’m not disappointed because I still have my dream and I’m not giving it up. When (not if!) I get in next year, I can be even more proud of myself. </p>

<p>I have a couple of options right now and I’d like to get your advice!
As I said, I don’t intend to give up my dream and so I hope to be able to go to college in the US in one or two years. To accomplish this I see a couple of options:</p>

<p>1.: I could attend a university in Germany for one or two years and reapply as a transfer applicant. Unfortunately Harvard and Princeton don’t take transfer applicants at all so that I’d basically only have a shot at Yale (those 3 are my top choices) and, given the even lower admission rate for transfer applicants, this option doesn’t seem very promising. Apart from that, it would be hard to get good recommendations at a German university because the professor’s are not really experts on US colleges and the classes are very large (hundreds of students) in most first year courses. Additionally, I don’t really want to do that. One reason why I want to study in the US is the great sense of community at many colleges and the fact that all students live together on campus – this practically doesn’t exist here. It might also be bad for a transfer application because the language of instruction wouldn’t be English.</p>

<p>2.: I could possibly find a college in another country and attend for one or two years and then transfer. Apart from the fact that I’d actually like it more because I’d see other countries and would get to know other cultures, it really is the same as #1.</p>

<p>3.: (At the moment my first choice) I could do a postgraduate year at a very good boarding school in the US and then reapply. Then I could work on my major weakness (SAT scores, I’d probably be able to get a much better preparation in the US than here), take more courses and probably also get better recommendations etc. (unfortunately teachers at my school were not very experienced with this, even though it is an international school). Possibly I could also take some courses at a community college or so in addition to that. The problem, however, is that I’m not sure whether it is still possible to apply, especially since I would need financial aid. Apart from that, this seems to be the best option to me, I’d finally be in the US and improve my chances of an acceptance (also because I probably could apply as a domestic applicant.) I’ll probably call a couple of schools in the next days and ask; however, do you think I should tell them about my rejections and thus probably hurt my chances of admission, or should I just ask if I can still apply and then simply apply? Also: I’m already almost 19; Once I’m finished with my PG year, I’ll be 20. Could that hurt my chances?</p>

<p>4.: I could take a gap year and try to do something impressive in that time: I could participate in competitions, travel, do a lot of ECs and retake the SAT. </p>

<p>5.: Community College / Extension School: I don’t know too much about this right now, but if my assumption is correct, I’d be able to still apply for a community college / just attend, right? Then I could be there for one year, work very hard and try it as a transfer applicant. The advantage of this is that I’d finally be in the US, but the transfer chances are still very low.</p>

<p>Please comment on my ideas and make some suggestions. Does anyone know how the chances of reapplying are? The Yale FAQ say that it’s possible but that not many people end up getting accepted after the second time. Also: what would colleges think? Would they be impressed because I’m not giving up or would they just say “hey, we already rejected him, let’s not even seriously look at his application”? </p>

<p>Thanks a lot to each of you who is taking the time to read this long post and, again, congratulations to each of you who got accepted! Please don’t just post: “just give up” or “we don’t want people who are not from the US and need financial aid”, I really have no interest in reading such posts right now :slight_smile: Thanks!</p>

<p>Whatever you do, DO NOT give up on your dream. If going to a good school in the U.S is really what you want, then do everything you can to get in. Look back on your application and see what might have been turning all of the colleges off. If it truly was just the fact that you were an international needing aid, then maybe focus on taking a gap year and getting into a field that really interests you (and that can also bring in some money). Community/local college for two years is a great opportunity for someone in financial purgatory, and if you do well enough, can transfer in to Stanford (maybe even Yale but it is a true longshot). I have followed you and your posts (I’m pretty sure we got rejected from all of the same schools) and I am confident that even if you attend school in Germany you will be successful.</p>

<p>Thanks for your kind words and thanks for supporting me with my dream :slight_smile: Where did you get in / where are you going to attend it I may ask? </p>

<p>What do you think about doing a PG year? Would it be academically useful or would it in a way just be a wasted year? I’m also confident that I would be successful at a German school but I just have to leave the country, see the world, learn about different cultures and so on. I just can’t do that here.</p>

<p>Well, we are in the same boat. But despite the fact that it is my dream to go to an American top school, I’m actually fine in staying here, staying at a local college for a while, maybe transfering or doing grad in the US. I love Rio, and of course my college doesn’t have much structure, but they are not that bad. Vassar didn’t come trough either, but I’m pretty sure is a rejection there too. I’ll try to do something amazing with all the education I can get. I know I could be in worse situation.</p>

<p>I’m very sorry to hear that you didn’t get into the schools you wanted Dr. Avrah. However, you will find great schools in Germany and will be successful. Don’t give up!</p>

<p>Got to Canada. UBC or U of T are amazing schools and I think you can still apply (you def. can at UBC)</p>

<p>Your optimism is both admirable and inspiring. Whichever option you eventually decide on, I’m sure that you will find your success and be really proud of it. Hang in there! :)</p>

<p>Thanks for all your comments. </p>

<p>janas.joker: yeah, Canada sounds interesting, I’ll definitely check that out. Thank you!</p>

<p>At least you got featured in the news. Now you can use that on your application if you apply as a transfer student!</p>

<p>Keep trying! I think gap year OR applying as a transfer is the best thing to do!</p>

<p>I’m sort of in a similar boat. I didn’t apply to many schools, and I was rejected from all the top universities I applied to. I basically put myself through personal and emotional hell the past two years (in my junior year of high school, I had a total of 8 different people taking care of me throughout the year, but they would go in cycles, so I actually changed hands 19 times. Now so far in my senior year I have gone back and forth between the US and the Dominican Republic 6 times, go to 3 online high schools, and am basically trapped inside my house/apartment all day). After all that, I am not so sure I’m willing to go to a second tier institution (George Washington) even though it is a good school.</p>

<p>Anyway, I’m explaining all this because I think we are in similar situations and I have been doing a lot of research on this. I’ve actually been looking at the University of Sydney. Because they are in the southern hemisphere, they go to school from February to October, I think, so the deadline for freshman applicants still hasn’t passed. I might also suggest calling some of the schools to see if they will consider you for spring semester. I know a lot of schools, especially top ones, won’t reverse their decisions, but maybe you will be able to get them to compromise…If not, then just make sure whatever you do during the next year is truly something special. Good luck!</p>

<p>Thanks for your comments.</p>

<p>rszanto: I don’t really think that will help me at all but I assume that was just a joke :)</p>

<p>BrandoIsCool: I think I will do tons of stuff in the meantime and then just try again. That’s the advantage: I did it all already and, as probably all of you experienced, thousands of ideas came to my mind of what I could have done differently in my application. I can use that knowledge in the future :slight_smile: However, I don’t think transfer will be good because only one of my top three choices takes transfers, and that’s too risky I’d guess.</p>

<p>Apart from that, I have another idea: if I do something impressive in the meantime and in addition to that enroll part time for example at the Harvard Extension School and take some courses through distance learning, will I count as a transfer applicant? I assume that because I’ll not be a full time college student, I’ll count as a freshman, right? The advantage would be that I could apply as a freshman, but could increase my chances of admission and also get some credits so that I maybe might be able to finish a year early (so in the end I had not even lost a year!) Does anybody know the limit of how many credits one is allowed to have to still apply as a freshman?</p>

<p>made4uchicago: Good to hear that I’m not alone. Not only with my rejections, but I also made very similar experiences to you in the past two years. I’m very sorry that you didn’t get accepted. Thanks for the Sydney advice, I’ll consider that :slight_smile: Good luck to you, too, and hopefully you’ll make a good decision!</p>

<p>Edit: why do actually so few people use smileys? They’re just great. You all should use them more :)</p>

<p>We’re on the same situation Dr. Avrah ! I got rejected by my first-choice college :-/ … I’m considering a boarding school or university in France. Actually, the college I want doesn’t accept transfer applications from students in non ‘us-style’ universities, so I’d have to apply as a first year student again if I decide to attend university in France. Yet, I have to admit that a postgraduate year at a boarding school is my first option right now.</p>