Right, so if someone applies really early and gets accepted and fills the SSA quickly (before Nov 1) they may get some early surprises. I think DD submitted her SSA on October 39th (very close to Nov 1 :)) and heard from the automatic in-state first right after the holidays, then a smaller award from College of Arts and Sciences maybe February, and Herbert Presidential in early spring. Once NMF was confirmed she picked up a couple more that way and while she made Hutton, she did not get additional merit from there.