recuitable 2k times for lightweight rowers at ivies?

<p>Hi,
I am currently a sophomore in high school and am wondering…

  1. what is a solid 2k time for lightweight guys at HYP?
  2. What is a time that makes it so that even if you are slacking in academics, you can still slide by admissions without trouble?
    3.Is it true that if you have better grades, your erg times don’t have to be extraordinary?
  3. Do erg times fluctuate between HYP and the other ivies?
  4. Approximately how many rowers do coaches have on their “lists”?</p>

<p>please try and answer as many as you can.
thanks</p>

<ol>
<li>sub 7:30 would do</li>
<li>hm…tough question to answer. I know HYP don’t usually take rowers without the grades. If you qualify to be an Olympic rower, maybe, but if not, try to get all A’s and A-'s even if they’re not all honors/APs. B’s are fine if you’re taking highest classes possible.</li>
<li>yes, but to a certain extent.</li>
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<p>EDIT: just realized you wanted the time for guys…I know a heavyweight girl who got recruited for Yale with a 7:30 so I guess for lightweight guys, it should definitely be sub 7.</p>

<p>Also, talk to your coach. He/she should have better answers.</p>

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<p>First of all, recruiting is pretty transparent, especially for rowing, and the ivy league coaches would almost certainly tell you the answers to these questions.
I’ll take a stab at them anyway.</p>

<ol>
<li>Not sure, but it is definitely below 7:00 and I would guess that the real recruits are below 6:45 when they walk in. The fact that recruits may have hit their ceiling already may mean they are even better than that–6:30-6:45 range.<br></li>
<li>Check what the “academic index” is for the rowing team. You may be able to calculate what you need. If they need you for a recruiting spot, and you’re above the index, they’ll tell you.</li>
<li>In general, I’d say no. However, the model of admissions for recruits may be slightly more complicated than I suggested. I’ve heard that the average academic ability needs to be above a certain level, and that each recruit must be above a certain level; I’m not sure if that was referring to grades at the ivy or to academic index when getting in. It’s sort of similar to the concept of weight limits; the average for the boat must be 155 lbs but no one can be over 160 lbs. Taking this analogy, if you are 160 lbs the standards are a bit higher for you because you force the boat to have people below weight to balance you out; similarly, if you are really lacking academically (but are above the minimum,) they may only recruit you if you are really great. But in general, if you are good enough to occupy a recruiting slot, then they’ll take you as long as you clear the minimum academic bar.</li>
<li>Erg times probably fluctuate based on how good the teams are. I’d suspect UPenn and/or Columbia wouldn’t have erg times as impressive as HYP’s based on their records.</li>
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<p>@collegealum314,</p>

<p>Does anyone knows how this Academic Index is calculated? I read a book where it states that 1/3 is based on SAT (Reading & Math), 1/3 is based on SAT subject tests and 1/3 is based on class rank. It didn’t talk about SAT writing score. That book was 10 year old book, writing was not required then. Not sure how SAT Writing is included in this AI calculation. Is Writing considered as one of the Subjects like other SAT subjects? If so what if a students has taken 3 subjects and score there better than SAT writing? Does anyone knows?</p>

<p>Thanks for reading and replying.</p>

<p>Coaches (H anyway) are not using the SAT writing section in the AI these days. So you can use the old formula you found.</p>