<p>Which regions have a slight advantage? Do New Yorkers have an advantage?</p>
<p>“out there” states such as montana, wyoming, Idaho, kansas.</p>
<p>New Yorkers are probably the most disadvantaged, by a long shot. Then, it’s NJ, Conn, Cali.</p>
<p>In the contract colleges, Cornell has to fill a certain # or % of their slots with New Yorkers.</p>
<p>Does Oklahoma count as an out-there state?</p>
<p>Right gosspgirl, that’s only in the public colleges, Ag, Human Ecology, and ILR. The rest of the school is private and NYers are at a disadvantage.</p>
<p>I definitely agree with you, Charlie’s World.</p>
<p>Yes, Oklahoma will help your admissions chances.</p>
<p>yeah, Ny’ers applying to the statutory schools have a decent advantage</p>
<p>Awwww, dudes, awwww.</p>
<p>Does being a South-Asian American give me a slight edge?</p>
<p>“New Yorkers are probably the most disadvantaged, by a long shot. Then, it’s NJ, Conn, Cali.”</p>
<p>I think it might depend on whether you’re applying to a contract or an endowed college. As gossipgirl said, the contract colleges have to fill a certain percentage of their undergraduate class with New Yorkers in order to continue to receive state funding.</p>
<p>Class of 2011 Statistics:</p>
<p>Contract Division: <a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000177.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000177.pdf</a>
CALS: 57.65% NYS Residents
CHE: 50.38%
ILR: 42.77%</p>
<p>Endowed Division: <a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000176.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000176.pdf</a>
AAP: 18.52% NYS Residents
CAS: 21.5%
CoE: 19.15%
Hotel: 24.85%</p>
<p>Needless to say, there’s a considerable difference between the percentages of NYS residents enrolled at the contract colleges and endowed colleges. However, I’m aware of the fact that there are three potential problems with these statistics:
- They only show the percentages of NYS residents who enrolled rather than those who were accepted.
- A higher percentage of NYS admits would actually attend the contract colleges than they would the endowed colleges (due to the discounted tuition, obviously).
- Cornell doesn’t release the number of applicants from each individual state, so there is no way for us to know how many NYS applicants applied to each school/college, making it impossible to calculate individual admit rates (in-state admit rate vs. OOS admit rate).
However, if the above is true, the contract colleges would most likely be aware of these developments and would have adjusted their admissions process accordingly. If we just take the percentages at face value, then there’s no denying the fact that contract colleges are content with having approximately half of their freshman class consisting of NYS residents while the endowed colleges tend to limit their in-state student body to approximately 1/5 of the entire class.</p>
<p>Ultimately, in my opinion, (which usually doesn’t matter to most people) there are really no advantages/disadvantages to NYS applicants if they’re applying to a contract college since the large number of NYS applicants to those colleges would balance out any advantage they might have during the admissions process for being in-state applicants. However, if you’re in-state and you’re applying to an endowed college, there is a real possibility that you may be disadvantaged since they tend to prefer more regional diversity.</p>
<p>How much does it help to be from Oklahoma?</p>
<p>How much does it help to be an Asian-American from New York?</p>
<p>Being Asian American will probably negate any advantage you get for being from NY.</p>
<p>There’s no such thing as a quota system. Contract colleges take a lot of NYers but they also get a lot of NY applications. In the end, I think there is a slight advantage if you are from NY and applying to a contract college. Probably no advantage if you’re applying to an endowed college.</p>
<p>contract colleges DO NOT have to fill a quota of NY State students. In the admissions game, quotas are illegal.</p>
<p>The data presented only shows enrolled students. Truth is, the applicant pool in the contract colleges HEAVILY favors NYS students, they represent an overwhelming majority. Why wouldn’t they, the colleges are $15,000 a year cheaper than the endowed divisions. For the record, NO part of Cornell is public, each individual school is privately owned and operated by Cornell. </p>
<p>I’d like to point out something interesting in the statistics Kentric gave:
“ILR: 42.77%”</p>
<p>4 years ago, when I was applying to Cornell, that number was 70%. I started working for admissions in a contract college shortly after and I predicted it’ll be much harder for the typical NYS applicant to get in as I knew Cornell is seeking a much more geographically diverse class. As guessed, this happened. </p>
<p>New Yorkers are abundant at Cornell, but the competition is much more fierce for students from this state. In trying to recruit a diverse class, the most represented states will be the ones first hit: in particular NY, Conn, NJ, Cali.</p>
<p>What if my background is Pakistani/Bangladeshi-American? And I’m from New York. Do I get any advantage from this? Surely there aren’t many Pakis/Bangalis applying to Ivy League schools, especially from NY, right?</p>
<p>How much does it help to be from Oklahoma?</p>
<p>Stop asking the same darn question Feemzi2, geez, you’re so self-centered!</p>
<p>So anyway, where was I, what if my background is Pakistani/Bangladeshi-American? And I’m from New York. Do I get any advantage from this? Surely there aren’t many Pakis/Bangalis applying to Ivy League schools, especially from NY, right?</p>
<p>There’s probably enough people from Pakistan applying to Ivy League schools. I’ve never heard of Pakis/Bangalis being underrepresented. Keep in mind, Asian Americans make up just 5% of the general population (and most Asian Americans are Indian, Chinese, Korean, Japanese, etc.). If Pakistani’s make up just 0.01% of the American population, then Cornell just needs to have 0.01% of its student population be Pakistani in order to ensure proper representation.</p>
<p>oklahoma is better than some, but not as good as others.</p>
<p>sorry gametheory, i’m just wondering. Does being from oklahoma give an applicant an advantage. and if so, to what degree.</p>