<p>ucsd-ucla-dad in post #90:</p>
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<p>The guy’s name is Jiang Li. Won’t help him even if race box is not checked. I think we will have something if the application outlaws the race box and transpose applicant name to applicant number.</p>
<p>I didnt see the last posts. The guy is brilliant. </p>
<p>But I cautioned others to not to try to set off wave of lawsuits. Li got the goods and the moxy to pull it off.</p>
<p>^ I agree with Canuckguy that it sure worked to Jian’s favor, though who knows the intentions of another.</p>
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<p>^Well I agree. Unless perhaps one could argue it only correlates with Asians and not another ethnic group. Are there other groupings of applicants that appear to compete with themselves by having such similar profiles? I dunno. </p>
<p>This might be a downside of belonging to any group of applicants that share such similar and specific cultural (parent-driven) norms about what are considered acceptable aptitudes, courses, and ECs. An Asian child is more likely to have their parents decide they do math and chess in the summer; a non-Asian kid is more likely to pick their own summer activities, like circus camp or soccer. An Asian kid is more likely to learn piano or violin or cello, intensely; a non-Asian kid is more likely to pick up guitar, tuba or cheerleading instead.</p>
<p>I know tons of Asian kids that don’t fit a stereotype (whatever that is, eg. classical instrument, math, chess, Model UN, volunteer at hospital, no sports). But those that DO fit such a stereotype (of maybe any ethnicity?), might be statistically disadvantaged.</p>
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<p>Jian Li actually, but we know what you mean. But according to the facts I’ve researched and tried to put into College Confidential’s FAQ thread on this subject, </p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/858679-race-college-admission-faq-discussion-7-a.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/858679-race-college-admission-faq-discussion-7-a.html</a> </p>
<p>colleges do NOT guess a student’s ethnicity if the student doesn’t tell the college, and a lot of colleges admit very large percentages of students who are reported to the federal government as “race/ethnicity unreported.” Current federal law requires colleges to ask, but it doesn’t require students to tell, and colleges don’t go out of their way to guess, it appears. </p>
<p>The Census Bureau, by the way, has researched family names and finds very few with a high reliability for identifying a person’s ethnicity. I have met Norwegian-Americans named Wang, for example, and families intermarry and adopt and do all kinds of things that make a guess of a person’s ethnicity from the person’s name less than certain. (On the other hand, if I saw the name Jian Li, with that spelling, my first guess would certainly be that the person is Chinese and from the P.R.C. besides.) </p>
<p>Join the discussion on the FAQ thread </p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/858679-race-college-admission-faq-discussion-7-a.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/858679-race-college-admission-faq-discussion-7-a.html</a> </p>
<p>if you’d like to discuss the broader issues. </p>
<p>Good luck to everyone applying this year.</p>