<p>Religious freedom is not curtailed when some religions can choose to have equal marriage rights and others can limit marriage to male-female couples.</p>
<p>If you have freedom of religion, then religions can choose who is involved with which ceremonies.</p>
<p>I guess you didn’t read the article I posted: <last year=“” the=“” alberta=“” human=“” rights=“” commission,=“” after=“” receiving=“” complaints=“” from=“” two=“” homosexual=“” citizens,=“” began=“” investigating=“” a=“” catholic=“” bishop=“” over=“” comments=“” he=“” made=“” about=“” gay=“” marriage.=“” his=“” views,=“” published=“” in=“” newspaper=“” column=“” and=“” letter=“” to=“” parishioners,=“” expressed=“” traditional=“” biblical=“” beliefs=“” marriage=“” homosexuality.=“” were=“” eventually=“” withdrawn,=“” but=“” not=“” before=“” was=“” forced=“” hire=“” lawyer,=“” register=“” reported.=“”></last></p>
<p>Conversely, the Rev. Dr. Brent Hawkes was instrumental in bringing about the legalization of gay marriage in Canada. In fact, a large part of the mission of the “Metropolitan Community Church,” in addition to <em>ministering</em> to the LGTB community, is gay activism. These “churches” are located across America and the world. No one seems intent on shutting down pro-gay-marriage speech within these churches, as they are in shutting down anti-gay-marriage speech in conservative Christian denominations. </p>
<p><a href=“Metropolitan Community Churches”>www.mccchurch.org/Am/Template.cfm?Section=&WebsiteKey=</a></p>
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<p>“We will depend on them for vitality,” Father Greeley predicted. “But they will continue to depend on us for the ideas.”</p>
<p>To judge by a murmuring restlessness in the crowd, more than a few audience members were surprised such a remark. It seemed–how to put it?–patronizing. Do people in the Global South have no ideas of their own? Is theirs a faith of pure emotion?..
When pressed, though, Father Greeley didn’t take back his remark. Instead he went further, waxing eloquent about how people in South America have a “whole different approach to religion.”…
Timothy Shah, a senior fellow in religion and world affairs at the Pew Forum, believes that Father Greeley’s attitude is “fairly widespread” among academics and theologians in Europe and North America. (We are the smart ones; they are mere folk co-religionists.) He cites the recent controversy within the Episcopal Church over the issue of homosexuality. When African primates declared at the church’s 1998 conference that homosexual practice is “incompatible with Scripture,” the American bishop John Shelby Spong, of Newark, N.J., suggested that African Christianity is backward: “They’ve yet to face the intellectual revolution of Copernicus and Einstein that we’ve had to face in the developing world.”<<<<
<a href=“http://www.opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110009328[/url]”>http://www.opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110009328</a></p>
<p>“You might start with Britney and Pamela. They look like they could use some help!”</p>
<p>Wow! I didn’t realize they were “an item”. ;)</p>
<p>whats gay?</p>
<p>Ha. It’s a pretty sure bet the next Pope will be from one of these “second world” “backwards” countries. :)</p>
<p>Who knows? Maybe we’ll have the 12th openly gay one!</p>
<p>mini, your anti-Catholicism is showing.</p>
<p>Do you have legitimate sources for your claim that there were eleven gay popes? If there were any, then I think it is highly unlikely that they were “open” in any way. Homosexuality has not been openly accepted by any western civilization since the Greeks, as far as I know. </p>
<p>Quite honestly, I am aware of the work you do in south Asia, and I think it’s admirable. I offered my support for your family in it’s current difficulty. But your continuous slander against my faith is really quite offensive to me, as I’m sure it is for any practicing Catholic. I don’t go out of my way to insult your faith tradition. I wish, in the spirit of this Holy Season, that you would be as kind to mine.</p>
<p>Relax, you are being overly defensive. Mini was just (half?) joking. Besides, you should be thankful this holiday season that your religion was lucky enough to have them. I personally do not support any establishment that (explicity or implicitly) promotes hatred.</p>
<p>A Nazis ok- anything but a closeted gay :rolleyes:</p>
<p>wow…just wow</p>
<p>try plugging in “Pope Pius nazi” on google and educating yourself…</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.catholicleague.org/pius/truth.htm[/url]”>www.catholicleague.org/pius/truth.htm</a></p>
<p><a href=“Pius XII Was No Nazi - Beliefnet”>www.beliefnet.com/story/55/story_5520_1.html</a></p>
<p>…just for starters</p>
<p>wow</p>
<p>'tisthetruth, mini and I have been dancing this particular dance for quite a while. This is not the first time he’s made derogatory comments about Catholicism – he seldom misses an opportunity. My objection to claiming that close to a dozen Popes were gay is that it is a complete abrogation of their vows and is slanderous. It’s like saying that Ralph Nader owns an oil company and drives an SUV. Or that a muslim cleric or Jewish Rabbi eats pork. It’s insensitive and unfounded.</p>