Relocating: recommend a great town in NH or Maine?

<p>We have a couple of years to go, but I’m starting to research. H and I are thinking of relocating to New England from the D.C. area when our youngest child graduates. But H still plans to commute during the week to an apartment in the D.C. area to continue working until retirement (He’ll only be 53 at the time). Here’s our wish list:</p>

<p>hour or less to Manchester or Portland airport (flights from BWI to Manchester are half the cost of Portland)
waterfront (lake) property
health food store
yoga studio
nice sense of community</p>

<p>Best friend is in Hanover, NH (love it there); parents are in Bridgton, ME (not too far from Portland). Aiming for the middle puts us near Lake Winnipesaukee, but I worry that might be too touristy. We like to kayak and H likes open water swimming, not so much lots of speed boats.</p>

<p>Are we crazy to consider this commuting thing? My work is mostly online, but H is a lawyer in an area of law that does not relocate easily (zoning, real estate development). I’m from New England and we both really love it there. This was his idea.</p>

<p>I don’t have advice about the area, but if it was your H’s idea let him take the lead. I know my husband went through huge life chances regarding what he wanted relative to work/life around age 50. It was an interesting thing to be part of. It’s all good, but if he’s the one whose looking for this he might have some “ideas” in the back of his mind. He might be taking one thing at a time so not thinking about commuting right now but leaving the door open.</p>

<p>You could do Lake Winnepesakki or the big Squam Lake or any number of lakes with waterfront houses in New Hampshire and be within 60 minutes of the Manchester Airport. My in-laws used to rent a house on one of the lakes (either Little Squam or White Oak Poind, I think) with canoing and swimming but no speedboats. Absolutely gorgeous. The whole lakes region.</p>

<p>Even the little lakes on the map, like Pleasant Lake and Northwoods Lake at the intersection of 202 and 107 due east of Concord are absolutely stunning and just minutes from Concord. The whole state is dotted with lakes and, basically, all of New Hamphsire is gorgeous.</p>

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<p>Hah. I did that. And, my wife bought a 600 square foot 1 person condo with no place for me in the picture.</p>

<p>^^Oh no, that’s so sad interesteddad.</p>

<p>Since Southwest Airlines just bought AirTran, they will be flying out of Portland soon, so the flight from PWM to BWI should be cheaper, I would think.</p>

<p>We live just north of Portland and love the area. There’s always something going on, and Boston is only a two-hour drive. Bridgton is pretty, too!</p>

<p>One advantage to NH - the taxes are cheaper. The top income tax rate in Maine is 8%. It’s zero in NH! There is also 5% sales tax in Maine - none in NH. From what I’ve heard, I don’t think the property taxes in NH are much worse than Maine, either!</p>

<p>There is a nice “planned community” called Eastman. It is located in Grantham NH which is between New London and Lebanon. It has a lake at the center, a community center…near enough to Lebanon and New London…and Hanover. I think it’s more than an hour from Manchester, but I’m not sure HOW much further. You could have the benefits of a lake community. There are free standing houses, and condos. Your choice. Lots of different age folks and many are year round residents.</p>

<p>My inlaws have also summered on Eastman Lake. Nice rustic house with a dock, canoes, etc. It’s 66 miles from Manchester Airport, all interstate highway. Lake Sunappee nearby would also be an excellent place to look. It’s gorgeous.</p>

<p>Hopkinton and Henniker are attractive, or around Lake Sunnapee. I’m fond of Bradford and Warner, too. Look around North Weare (pronounced “ware”), where I recall people who said they were born “East of No. Weare” </p>

<p>Think year-round. A realistic thought is to imagine NH in winter. The state and interstate roads are very well plowed to keep skiing tourists coming. A 50+ mile wintertime commute to Manchester airport could be rough unless his work lets him call in for snow now and then. </p>

<p>My parents moved from your area to New Hampshire around age 50 and bought in the village center rather than lakeside, both continuing their careers but working locally in NH. For them, a village-center was more practical/manageable as newly departed from the city. They drove to lakes for recreation, choosing among them. They got to know everyone in the village and it was less of a culture shock than moving backwoods (for them).</p>

<p>If you do locate backwoods, get the right kind of vehicle for the roads leading up to the house. You want to know about “mud-season” (early spring).</p>

<p>Another way to commute to D.C. is by commuter-friendly bus to Boston’s Logan Airport (look up under “ground transportation” from Logan Airport). They leave several times daily from Concord, NH, other parts of NH, and I think Maine. He could work on the bus and hop a flight at Logan, rather than drive so much.</p>

<p>Thank you, everyone. These are great ideas. I’ll look up the towns. I also appreciate the ideas about commuting alternatives and will research those.</p>

<p>ML-thanks for the reminder of Southwest. I’m keeping an eye on property taxes as I look at listings in NH and some are not too bad. We will have income for awhile, so that makes NH appealing. The Portland area does sound great though (the only Whole Foods in the two states).</p>

<p>I have strong hopes that a Whole Foods will be coming to Merrimack, NH in 2012. Simon Property Group is building the largest premium outlet mall in New England and Whole Foods would be the kind of store that I would expect in that mall. WF has no presence in Southern NH and the closest store is Bedford, MA which is about 25 minutes from the border.</p>

<p>Merrimack is just southwest of the Manchester Airport.</p>

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<p>Astromom,
Our summer- one day to be retirement- home is on Lake Winnipesaukee. I think you are brilliant for considering it! ;)</p>

<p>I’m no expert in the area but spent a few days in Keene while DS was at a lacrosse camp and found it lovely. Very pretty little houses; old downtown area complete with a gazebo. Really charming. [url=&lt;a href=“http://www.ci.keene.nh.us/]Home”&gt;http://www.ci.keene.nh.us/]Home</a> | City of Keene<a href=“As%20a%20tourist%20I%20loved%20the%20no%20sales%20tax!”>/url</a></p>

<p>Keene is about 80 minutes from Manchester Airport and the roads out there aren’t the best. NH highways are generally best north to south with less good access east to west with the exception of 101. There have been numerous improvements to 101 in the last two decades which means that we can get to the beach pretty quickly now.</p>

<p>One area that I like is Meredith, NH. About 70 minutes from the airport, has a nice village and is right on a lake - it’s either a lake attached to other lakes or it is a massive lake with numerous islands. There are motorized water vehicles on it and I think that there’s ice fishing there in the winter.</p>

<p>I live about 10 miles north of Portland, and I can’t say too much about how great Portland is. It is a vibrant cultural center that feels much bigger in that respect than it actually is. Think of a mini-Seattle. Portland itself is about 60K people, and there are about 250K in the greater Portland area. I live in a town that still has farms and can be in downtown Portland in 20 minutes, at the airport or bus/train station in 25 minutes. The airport is small enough so that it is easy to zip in and out of.</p>

<p>It has a good professional symphony orchestra and a very lively music scene in many other genres: folk/indie/chamber music you name it. </p>

<p>It has a good art museum and tons of galleries and an art school. There is a First Friday Art Walk every month during which all of the galleries are open in the evening and serve wine and cheese. People roam the streets from gallery to gallery with glasses of wine. :slight_smile: Lots of fun.</p>

<p>There’s professional repertory theater. There is an extremely active high-quality crafts and artisan community. There is the Maine Organic Farmers Association which holds the annual Common Ground Fair and has members from whom you can buy humanely-raised organic meats, organic wools hand-dyed with natural substances, herbs. vegetables, soaps–you name it. There is indeed a Whole Foods, and there are other organic food stores in the region that were here for decades before WF showed up, just like there are local coffee places that were here before Starbucks arrived. </p>

<p>Portland is a little foodie mecca, as various magazines have recently started to proclaim, with lots of great restaurants. You can buy your milk in bottles from Smiling Hill Farm and your apples from the Sweetsers, who have been living in the same house tending their 60-variety orchard since 1810. You can go down to the working waterfront and buy your seafood from Harbor Fish.</p>

<p>Portland also has minor league baseball and hockey teams, and there’s a new basketball franchise. It has the leading regional hospital–Maine Med–a very good Catholic alternative–Mercy–and two universities, plus other colleges within 30 miles. It’s a port town, so obviously there is ample ocean access. You can also take the ferry out to islands in Casco Bay and go biking or boating. Sebago Lake–one of the largest in the region–and Kezar Lake–the most beautiful, IMHO, are within about an hour’s drive, just to name two. There are plenty of rivers and other lakes for kayaking within an hour’s drive, and lots of really superb pristine hiking and kayaking well within two hours. (It has been proclaimed one of the best places to live by Outside magazine.)</p>

<p>And it is a place with real character. It wasn’t ripped down in the 1960s and replaced with everywheresville office buildings. Although there is a mall in South Portland, in Portland itself there are plenty of local shops. And if you need some arcane piece of camping equipment at 2 am, you can visit the motherlode–LLBean–in Freeport because it’s open 24 hours a day. </p>

<p>Any place with easy access to Portland would be a good idea, IMHO. In South Portland, there’s the Willard Beach area which has charming older houses on city lots near the ocean with a public beach. In Falmouth and Windham there is Highland Lake. Go a bit father west and there are plenty of towns around Sebago. Go west of Bridgeton–very cool little town, but you are getting farther away from Portland in terms of being able to just casually zip in and out–and there is Center Lovell and the other towns on Kezar.</p>

<p>If I were you, I would come up here, stay someplace, and spend some time driving around checking out the possibilities, of which I have only barely scraped the surface.</p>

<p>I have a friend who lives just outside of Amherst, NH and loves it. She’s about 15 miles. from the Manchester Airport. Seems like a nice community–she does power yoga and bikes. Her kids are involved in many activities. Don’t think there’s a Whole Foods nearby, but Portsmouth, NH is probably about an hour away and that’s got all kinds of shopping options and some really nice restaurants. </p>

<p>I live northwest of Boston–right in the snow belt and I’d consider P3T’s post #9. Winter can be a gigantic pain when it snows and a 40-50 mile trip to the airport can take 2 or 3 times longer than it does when it isn’t snowing. I’d opt for being closer to the airport. It’s pretty easy to get to all kinds of recreational opportunities in NH, even if you don’t live right on a lake.</p>

<p>Good luck with your relocation.</p>

<p>I also recommend Portland, ME, or Portsmouth, NH, although both are something of a schlep to Hanover, NH. Portland makes the most sense in terms of airport proximity, but a regular commute to D.C. sounds dicey during the winter months when flights can have all sorts of weather delays.</p>

<p>My daughter has flown in and out of Manchester, NH airport for years and it is a terrific airport. It’s served by Southwest so there are plenty of cheap flights to everywhere, including BWI. It’s small. No traffic. Easy parking.</p>

<p>BTW, just for reference, the NH seacoast (Portsmouth, etc.) is within 60 minutes of the Manchester airport.</p>

<p>I think that the issue of waterfront property is tougher in the greater Nashua area (Amherst is northwest of Nashua). Perhaps you’re talking about Hollis or Brookline. It can take a while to head east given the relative lack of east-west roads. There’s a new access road from the Frances Everett Turnpike that will make access to the airport even easier from the Greater Nashua area. I really do think that Whole Foods is coming to the Nashua area. It’s a pretty common request on the bulletin board at the Bedford Whole Foods.</p>

<p>Portsmouth to Manchester isn’t bad with the improvements to 101A.</p>