Resolved: Yale is Heaven on Earth

<p>It’s a Friday night, and I have tons of make-up work to do after Bulldog Days. Lame, I know. So why am I on CollegeConfidential, pounding on my keyboard about the merits of Yale? Because as the title, indicates, it is Heaven on Earth.</p>

<p>Normally, I’d be too lazy to write this. But as a newly matriculated member of the Class of 2013 who agonized over Yale and several of its peer schools, I felt that my experiences with Yale might give others some insight.</p>

<p>Less than a year ago, I hated Yale. Of course, this was an irrational sentiment mainly induced by the fact that my parents loved it so much and continued to push Yale on me. Teenagers have the curious tendency to reject stuff like that, so maybe you can understand my past mentality. It also didn’t help that I visited Yale on a yucky, rainy day last spring, and got to see Princeton, Harvard, and Columbia bathed in glorious sunlight.</p>

<p>Only after my admissions interview did I become excited about Yale. The guy was in the same class as Paul Krugman, lived in Stiles, covered the Chernobyl disaster as a journalist, and was full of stories about his undergraduate years. </p>

<p>And four days ago, I set foot on the Yale campus for the second time during Bulldog Days, again in bleak weather. But the energy was incredible - it began with a shuttle (thank you Connecticut Limo) from Bradley Airport filled with amazing kids who had accomplished indescribable things. Yet they were humble and SO, SO FRIENDLY. We shared financial aid advice, traded stories about our admissions reactions, and crammed dozens of new names and faces into our mental address books.</p>

<p>I didn’t meet a single person I disliked over the three days. Okay, so the girl encouraging the prefrosh to cast away the shackles that society oppresses us with on 4/20 was … interesting. But she only added to the dynamic culture of the campus – she wasn’t mean. My hosts were willing to spend hours answering my questions about Yale, even though finals were approaching and several unfinished essays were waiting on their laptops. They mapped out their schedules and invited us for meals. They printed out my boarding passes and offered us extra pillows. They explained in detail why they chose Princeton, Harvard, Cambridge, Stanford, and a plethora of other elite schools for the big Y in New Haven. When people say that Yalies are enthusiastic about their school, no one is kidding. Everyone, from freshmen to seniors, were eager to profess their love for Yale and speak to me as if we were old friends. </p>

<p>The weather was less than ideal, but as the admissions office predicted, Yale’s glory transcended the elements. I found that Old Campus looked especially romantic in the rain. As the lights flickered on during early evening from dorm room windows and sidewalk lamps, the glow reflected in the puddles. I guess that was the “lux” :wink: Even at 2:30 AM, the sounds of celebration and enthusiasm drifted through my window. Not that any of us were sleeping in our rooms. All the prefrosh in my suite were excitedly discussing the highlights of the day. </p>

<p>Now let’s talk about the food. Food is a significant factor in my college decision (I kid you not), and there was variety at every meal. I managed to stumble upon some restaurant-quality Middle Eastern/North African food on my last day at Yale. And let’s not forget the PIZZA IN NEW HAVEN and the endless list of restaurants located in the surrounding area. Not only will Yale keep me well-read and well-bred, I can now add well-fed to the list.</p>

<p>My parents had been a little concerned about New Haven safety, and I’ll admit, I was too (initially). But I loved the urban feel and the assortment of accessible stores. J Crew, Urban Outfitters, Trailblazer, an upcoming American Apparel … it was all there. And during my three days there, I was never approached by a homeless person. Yes, they exist and might hit you up for money, but that happens in any city, including my hometown. At 1:00 in the morning, I felt perfectly safe walking around campus in a small group of three, and as long as people are smart about their decisions, there should be no problems. This applies anywhere. As long as I don’t stagger around at 3:00 AM on a street corner by myself, obviously inebriated, I will be okay.</p>

<p>The classes and master classes I attended were stimulating and blew my classroom experiences at UCLA, WashU, and Cornell out of the water. I was probably just lucky to have selected the right class to pop into, but I could definitely feel myself not into absorbing information, but being challenged to question conventional beliefs. Outside the classroom, intellectual vitality thrived as well. The YPU debate featuring Dick Morris (Bill Clinton’s former adviser) was a highlight of BDD as I watched the YPU dramatize Robert’s Rules of Order, inject humor into very serious discussions, and pound tables/hiss with passion. There was tradition all around, like none I have witnessed before.</p>

<p>A week ago, I thought I would be attending Princeton or UCLA. Both offered extraordinarily generous financial aid packages for my family, one that we had not expected to get, even though we knew Princeton’s track record with unbeatable financial aid. But Yale doesn’t have a sizable endowment for nothing. All it took was one phone call and one fax for the financial aid office to not only match Princeton’s offer, but reduce my student contribution requirements. And while I worried that a Yale education would be unattainable due to financial reasons, everyone from my interviewer to my admissions officer offered help and advice. I didn’t ask for it – they extended it willingly.</p>

<p>It is my firm belief that academically, there is little difference among undergraduate education quality at the top schools – Yale, Princeton, Stanford, Harvard, elite publics/LACs, etc. I would argue that Princeton has unsurpassed undergraduate education while Stanford might be better for engineering, for example, but those are very trivial differences that are not likely to harm anyone who does not choose to follow those paths. Instead, the personal differences are the ones that count, at least for me. I found myself explaining this to a group of parents that asked my opinion in front of Woolsey Hall. I told them why I loved Yale and was sure I would be choosing it over its peer schools. By the end, they were all in concurrence, and I would like to think that I will be seeing their son or daughter next fall, though I won’t be able to identify him/her. However, other admitted students events might change their mind. Either way, I felt like a Yale ambassador.</p>

<p>There is an energy at Yale I have never experienced at any other school, including most of the Ivies. Of course, no school is perfect, but Yale comes pretty damn close. And that, I suppose, is the “veritas.”</p>

<p>Your comments seem to reflect the prominent sentiment from many Ivy cross-admits.</p>

<p>“We are the Borg. Resistance is futile.”</p>

<p>SNAP! We got another one!</p>

<p>(congrats!)</p>

<p>You know what? I’m a 2013-er too, and I got the same vibe you did regarding the friendliness and enthusiasm of the students at BDD. I was actually worried it was a fluke - were people really this happy? But, reading your post, I realize it’s an essential and AWESOME attribute of Yale. I had committed before I even came to BDD (without ever having visited the campus!) and I was apprehensive and a bit nervous before I visited. However, I was blown away by the myriad of resources and opportunities for undergrads and the overall “vibe” of the campus. I don’t want to set my expectations too high, because I realize no school is perfect, but what I can say is that I can’t wait for September!</p>

<p>^^I completely second zqsvrm. I actually couldn’t even believe at first that Yale students were really THAT nice. I was like, “dude, are they gettting freakin’ paid?!” haha. But, time after time the students there (as well as the other 2013-ers) proved to be some of the most warm, friendly, down-to-earth, accepting people I’ve ever met.</p>

<p>Thanks so much for this thread, OP! You finely articulated the same thoughts held by my friends, basically everyone I’ve talked to who attended BDD, and me! </p>

<p>Awesome! :)</p>

<p>lhill, zqsrm and pink001: Obviiously I was being facetious about “resistance is futile, you will be assimilated” but what you’ve experienced is exactly what I experienced as a senior over twenty years ago. When I met the current students, they were literally bouncing off the wall with enthusiasm. Now as my 20th reunion class meets this summer, I know that it’s just a long line of people who’ve bitten off the Yale apple.</p>

<p>What you’ve each witnessed is actually transforming you to be rabid yalies as well. Your family and friends won’t recognize you this Thanksgiving when you come home from break – you’ll be dripping Yale outta every pore as well. Hopefully we can beat H in football this year…</p>

<p>OH and I’ll also add that I was sick too! Tuesday morning I actually ended up having to go to the Health Center with my parents, and after that I almost broke down in tears because I was so overwhelmed. However, I ended up finding a group of pre-frosh to eat dinner with, and had an awesome night after. So, I figured, if I can enjoy Yale sick and in the pouring rain, then it MUST be the school for me :P</p>

<p>I must agree with everything you said lhill. I knew Yale was for me for years and so decided, on December 16th, that I had to matriculate. Therefore, I have nothing to compare Yale too. But after BDD, I KNEW Yale was the right place after all. It was just AMAZING! And if I had been better prepared for the weather (i.e. an umbrella and/or clothes to get wet in), the rain would not have been annoying, although it definitely did not detract from the experience.</p>

<p>I also want to add that I felt COMPLETELY safe during the whole stay. We walked at about 1 in the morning from Crown Street to Howe Street to Old Campus to Pierson and back at 3 without any incidents. We felt safe, secure, and above all EXTREMELY HAPPY.</p>

<p>Congrats to all! I share the same sentiments (and yes, I too did get a cold after the rainy days of BDD), and I can’t wait to see you guys and girls as the Class of 2013!</p>

<p>Agree agree agree.
BDD was a blast, despite the weather.</p>

<p>For god, for country, and for YALE!</p>

<p>I agree with drbigboyjoe on the safety issues…</p>

<p>I have lived in a suburb all my life, and was not at ALL accostomed to city life. I’ll admit that outside of the “yale bubble,” new haven is a pretty gritty place. But the point is I felt SO safe walking around, even at 2:30am. I was only with a small group of friends, but we were walking up and down streets without a care. The Yale and New Haven police had a huge presence, and were constantly visible throughout the entire BDD trip. </p>

<p>Even from someone who’s had no experience in the city before, I felt VERY comfortable and secure walking anywhere I needed to go.</p>

<p>thanks so much, lhill, for your post. I have never agreed so strongly with any other post on this website!!! I share your feelings completely… I really, really cant wait until next year!</p>

<p>I’ve talked to an alumnus in his 70s who maintains that Yale was a better place than Harvard (after Yale undergrad and Harvard Law) for a lot of the same reasons you hear today. He also did DS, although it was a two-year program at the time. Decades of conventional wisdom pointing undergrads here is pretty hard to ignore.</p>

<p>Yale will be a blast the next four years.</p>

<p>I sent your post to DD who was very involved (translation: mom wonders if DD has time for class/papers/tests) in preparation for BDD activities/entertainment. It was nice for her to hear that their efforts were appreciated.</p>