retake or no?

<p>cr 750 m 730 w 800 (11 on essay.) --> 2280</p>

<p>this was my december test. i am a junior, current top choice is brown. what do you guys think? is it really worth it to take another test in january just for the sake of getting a higher score on math and thus getting my superscore up? im so lost. (by the way, my future major/concentration will involve no math at all if that changes anything. :) and i got a 790 on sat 2 math, if that affects anything at all :) )</p>

<p>thanks for the input!</p>

<p>bump! pweaseee</p>

<p>Retake 20char</p>

<p>i should retake? :( i guess another 5 hours of extreme pressure for me...</p>

<p>One day will you regret not taking it?</p>

<p>Retake if you would like but that's a great score and I don't think brown would reject you solely because you got a 2280 over a 2300 or above. I mean so many applicants with perfect scores are rejected.</p>

<p>I don't think you should retake. Honestly, the 730 in math is the only dark spot, which is made up for with the 790 on the SAT II. Your writing score is phenomenal, and critical reading isn't bad. Unless you feel that you can do significantly better, than I don't recommend retaking.</p>

<p>Of course, it's completely your own decision that you'll have to decide for yourself.</p>

<p>Retake for a 2300+...you are capable of doing it, so prep a lil more and DO IT!!</p>

<p>don't retake. the math on the SAT is stupid. It's just baby math that's encrypted in a special code. it's like a puzzle, and colleges know this. The 790 shows that you are good at math.</p>

<p>and honestly if you want to retake then you don't know brown. brown isn't the type of school to care about little differences in scores. 700+ and you are fine. if you get rejected, its not because of your score. brown is very different when it comes to admissions compared to HYP</p>

<p>and please don't be offended when i ask this, but are you asian?</p>

<p>thanks everyone for such great advices. </p>

<p>and mas1996: hahaha yes i am -- and i am not offended at all because i know the reason you ask. hahaa</p>

<p>lol okay so then i have some for advice for you specifically because asians have to take a special approach to college admissions because they just aren't fair with them. and for everyone else who isn't asian...you can follow this as a guideline, but really what you have to do is different. this is for asians in particular.</p>

<p>brown is known for putting the most weight on the essays + extracurriculars. this is even more important if you're asian. if you are an URM with very high scores, you will probably get in no matter what. but no with asians.</p>

<p>college admissions see so many applications each year, so they are really experienced. Although they will NEVER admit it, they really do believe in those asian stereotypes, because, let's be honest, a majority falls into those categories. but they would be NAILED by the press if they said that publicly.</p>

<p>if you've ever looked at the 2014 brown decisions thread here on CC, you will see that many asians amazing scores get rejected. instinctively, you might think that they are expecting an even higher score. don't be fooled by this. it could ultimately cost you a spot if you think that way. getting an extra 30 points will not matter. Brown views scores 700+ as the same. I know what you're thinking: 700 and 800 are VERY different. but really don't focus on your score.</p>

<p>so brown doesn't like asians that fit those stereotypes....what do you do? avoid science/math/engineering interest. I know this is not fair! what if you want to do this? try not to mention it in your application.</p>

<p>also, brown will reject an asian who they can vision spending hours on a saturday night with his or her nose glued to a textbook. you can't come across as that. I'm assuming you aren't like this, but you need to do everything in your power to go against this if you want to stand out. you need to force your application to make you seem like a social butterfly. who do you think gets in, an asian with a 2400, national merit scholar, captain of science olympiad, and intel finalists? or an asian with a worse scores who participated in model un, was class president, and on the debate team?</p>

<p>regarding your essay topic, you need passion and emotion in them. brown is so experienced with applications (just from the sheer number) that they know if it is BS. you just can't pick a topic that you think is impressive or something that will look good. for example, a good topic can be as strange as how you hatched quails over the summer or why you don't like to wear shorts. you might think that they are stupid, but if you are generally passionate and have something to say about the topic, then you've aced the essay section. you also need to SHOW, and not TELL. this seems pretty vague, but you need to get it right. if you say "...was an invaluable experience. I learned the meaning of a true leader, ... blah blah blah" terrible essay. even if you are concluding your essay. DON'T GENERALIZE. the admissions team isn't dumb. they will probably get the significance, so don't elaborate on that. show what emotions you were experiencing at the time. give us an anecdote about the experience and take us through step by step showing why you remember it so well today. of course you can't say those words. you can't literally say that "....I remember it so well today." that should be very subtle and implied. the actual essay is the experience. show you have emotions. show you can laugh and cry.</p>

<p>"an asian with a 2400, national merit scholar, captain of science olympiad, and intel finalists? or an asian with a worse scores who participated in model un, was class president, and on the debate team?"</p>

<p>Are you ****ing serious? So let me get this straight...</p>

<p>Applicant 1:
2400 SAT
Captain of Science Olympiad
Intel Finalist</p>

<p>Applicant 2:
Worse Scores
Model UN
Debate Team
Class President</p>

<p>Intel Finalist + 2400 SAT practically guarantees you admissions into at least some ivies. On the other hand, class president, and those other common ec's are not impressive in the least bit.</p>

<p>If I were a college admissions officer, I'm more interested in seeing people who are selfless, ambitious, determined, and hardworking. Sounds like an ideal person, right?</p>

<p>In any case, OP, your score is identical to mine (2280), and I'm retaking as well. But I have a more dire need to score higher in math than you do...(800W 790CR 690M) I want to retake it because I know I can do better than that in math, even though it's not I'm planning to focus on when I go to college.</p>

<p>@physicsboy</p>

<p>I'm talking about brown...i believe some intel finalists or semi-finalists were rejected
and when i say worse scores, I still mean 700+</p>

<p>this was a bit exaggerated, but it's to make a point</p>

<p>^ lol ok. because if you show me a 2400 SAT student who is also an intel finalist and did not get accepted to atleast 1 top tier school, I'm going to give up...</p>

<p>i know...colleges are just too unpredictable...and I hate that so many qualified students are rejected. but one thing you should know is that for postgrad applications, a near perfect GPA + honors at a low 1st tier or high 2nd tier school is roughly equivalent to an average student with no honors at a high 1st tier. and grad programs and MBA and MD schools are what really matter for jobs.</p>