@saffysmum You are welcome. Hope your friend find this info useful. You might also direct her to this link where the bipolar patients express their regrets and guilts over their past manic episodes – some even say they prefer to stay in that state, afraid of the terrible feeling of depression and guilt that comes afterwards – thus the title “Ride the Tiger”, which means “stuck in a difficult position with no way out, or riding on the back of a tiger and you cannot get off.”
http://www.psychforums.com/bipolar/topic105674.html [This link worked before, but now it refuses my connection. But there were many very helpful comments, helpful for understanding how they feel while manic and the guilt afterwards. I found a few of those comments from cache and I copy them below. This link may come alive again.] [After copying down some comments from cache, I now find that the link is alive again. But I will leave these comments here anyway just in case the link gets broken again.]
Title: “Feelings of guilt over past manic episodes…” http://www.psychforums.com/bipolar/topic105674.html
“It makes me want to use drugs or drink or cut or anything to escape the memories of my manic episodes. They are very unsettling to those who witness them and to myself. Shame, fear of relapse and embarrassment fill my mind. I see some of these people from time to time which leaves me angry and self-pitying for days. How do you forgive yourself for some of this crap. This has been bothering me a lot lately.
Bipolar II”
“My manic episodes were not as severe as I have seen some could be, but when I think about them, they still bother me. I just have to tell myself to move on or I end up hating myself. And I try to not do the same things again.
Dx- Bipolar 2, anxiety, rapid cycler Citalopram 20mg, Mommy of 3, wife, sister, daughter”
“I cringe when I think of some of the things I have done and said while manic.
I have started so many fights while manic I’m quite unsure how I don’t have a criminal record. I have also been very risky with drug and when off with guys I don’t even know when I’ve been drunk. I have also spent thousands of pounds and I one point became homeless and started steeling to survive.
Like I say, I unsure how I have don’t have a criminal record.
Running around, not eating, thinking I’m the new Jesus; god has sent me here to save the world.
I’m embarrassed, guilty and disappointed with myself.
Just writing it out in the post makes me cringe.
Schizoaffective disorder”
“Just seeing the title of this thread made me send an e-mail to someone who unfriended me on Facebook because of something I did while hypo. Which felt great (to me) and made sense (to me) at the time. Except when the hypomania ended, and I thought about what I did, I realised why he unfriended me and cringed. Sent an apology, not expecting anything in return, but I felt I had to say sorry.”
“I’ve got this complex too. It’s like I’m self-punishing myself for acting foolishly in the past. This is the time when the depression starts to roll in, and I have to imagine the future rather than the past.
Some relationships will never be the same, and I’ve learned that the best thing to do in the future is avoid printed communications with friends. I seem to kind of blow up when manic and have the desire to ‘tell it like I see it.’ This doesn’t leave people too happy when I criticize them.
It’s hard not to ruminate over past actions, but It’s not your personal job to judge and punish yourself for them. Your job is to move positively forward.”
“I love my manic episode… I wish they came around more often.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m totally batsh!t crazy when they happen… but I fee on top of the world.
It’s the only time in my life that I really feel untouchable and in control… even though I’m obviously NOT in control of anything…
Still…
I know it’s not the best place for me mentally and all…
But I don’t feel bad about the past. It happened… it’s over… can’t change it.
Sure, I ruined some lives… but it didn’t have to be that way, really. I don’t entirely blame myself.
I burned a lot of bridges and I had a lot of fun.
I’m not proud of it, but I can’t ever feel regret for it.
For me, mania is like a high… I’m addicted to it.
xXSmileXx”
“I feel really guilty about some of my past behavour when manic and also really ashamed. not all of it - some was a blast, but some stuff I did I am so ashamed of. You re def not alone with this. How to forgive yourself I am not sure except to reinforce with yourself that you were ill and this is not something you chose to do deliberately.
Hugs”
“I don’t get full blown mania, but the things I do and say while hypomanic really do fill me with regret. I say and do things that are completely out of character, and embarrass myself and hurt people as well. It’s definitely something that is really hard and makes me so fearful of being hypomanic again. I really struggle trying to explain to people my remorse, and it makes it hard for them to understand whether I am truly being me or when I’m just saying things because I am hypomanic. I also punish myself for the things I do while manic. For me sometimes that’s the worst part of bipolar, I hate the regret following those episodes.”
“My best friend wouldn’t accept my apology for how I behaved when I was manic. He simply just tried to stress that It was something out of my control. “Its wasn’t your fault” he said, “it was out of your control” something along those lines. I’d like to believe that and just get over it that way.”
“If it’s any comfort I think most of us have felt shame. I aggressively pursued a guy I was attracted to a while back. We both were flirting. When I found out later he had a girlfriend it got nasty. I called him several times and sent him angry emails. He finally told me to get lost. I apologized days later. I’ve seen him a couple times since then. We both live in the same area. He always looks nervous. But I know that he knows I’m very sorry. He also knows I have bipolar disorder.
Shrug. It sucks. It sucks a lot. But there’s only so much you can do. Just try to forgive yourself. We’ve all been there.”
— there are many more comments, all very helpful to understand what they go through and how the feel during and after the episode …